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2023-02-09 JOINT LEGISLATIVE HEARING In the Matter of the 2023-2024 EXECUTIVE BUDGET ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT Chair: Sen. Liz Krueger View full transcript → Archive

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NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — The state's top economic development officials defended Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 budget proposals during a joint legislative hearing Thursday, highlighting major initiatives including a $100 billion Micron semiconductor facility deal and historic investments in arts and culture funding. Commissioner Hope Knight of Empire State Development told lawmakers that the state has supported more than 50,000 small businesses over the past two years and expects the Micron project in Central New York to create nearly 50,000 jobs statewide, including 9,000 positions with average salaries exceeding $100,000. She also announced the launch of the Office of Strategic Workforce Development, which has already awarded funding to train 3,000 individuals through partnerships with more than 100 businesses. But Sen. Sean Ryan, chair of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Economic Development and Small Business, pressed Knight on transparency issues, noting that the state's Database of Economic Incentives—created to track where economic development money goes—remains difficult to navigate despite recent improvements. "It's a little clunky," Ryan said, noting the database contains 3,200 different incentives with some columns entirely blank. Knight acknowledged the database is "an iterative process" and promised continued refinements. Ryan also questioned the status of a mandated economic impact study of state tax credits and incentives. Knight said the Department of Tax & Finance has hired an outside firm to conduct the analysis and expects to deliver the report by January 1, 2024. Commissioner Jeanette Moy of the Office of General Services outlined a $1.3 billion budget proposal that includes implementation of e-procurement systems—making New York the last large state to adopt such technology—and a $175.5 million infrastructure package for the Empire State Plaza. Moy noted that OGS manages 20 million square feet of state property and processes over $12.6 billion in invoices annually for 66 executive agencies. Mara Manus, executive director of the New York State Council on the Arts, highlighted the sector's economic impact, noting that New York's creative economy contributes $126 billion annually and comprises over 435,000 workers. She reported that NYSCA awarded over 3,600 grants totaling nearly $98 million in fiscal year 2023, with an 80 percent increase in applications compared to 2021. Capital projects funded by NYSCA are projected to generate $36 million annually for the Buffalo AKG campus redesign alone and attract nearly 200,000 visitors. The hearing was the fourth of 13 joint fiscal committee hearings on the Governor's proposed budget. New York State's economic development agency faced tough questioning from lawmakers on Wednesday over workforce coordination, business competitiveness, and arts funding as it defended Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 budget proposal. At a joint Senate-Assembly hearing on the executive budget, Empire State Development Commissioner Hope Knight touted new workforce training initiatives serving 3,000 trainees across 100 businesses, primarily in advanced manufacturing. However, Sen. Ryan expressed skepticism about the state's ability to manage 500 separate workforce development programs scattered across departments, calling for ESD to serve as a coordinating authority to ensure effectiveness. Sen. Murray launched a pointed attack on the state's handling of unemployment insurance debt, criticizing the decision not to take advantage of a federal interest-free repayment window. "We made a conscious decision to hammer every single New York State business," Murray said, noting the state paid $162 million in interest last year and faces potential total costs of $750 million over a decade. She questioned how the state can attract major employers like Micron when businesses face a $27.60-per-employee surcharge. Assemblyman Bronson pressed Knight on the Office of Workforce Development's selection criteria for nonprofit training partners and business participants, while also expressing disappointment that the FAST NY shovel-ready program received only $200 million instead of the $500 million he sought. Knight acknowledged over $100 million in FAST NY awards have been provided but could not immediately provide exact figures or geographic breakdowns. The hearing also revealed tension over the START-UP NY program, which ESD proposes to rebrand as EPIC and extend for five years. Knight cited $68 million in state investment generating 3,000 jobs and $1.3 billion in economic activity, but Bronson and Sen. Murray expressed reservations about the program's equity implications. Assemblyman Stirpe criticized proposed cuts to Centers of Excellence programs, which he noted have a 24-to-1 return on investment, while the state continues funding START-UP NY. He highlighted the Center of Excellence for Healthy Water's work on PFAS and algal bloom solutions, questioning why funding would drop from $1 million to $375,000. On the arts, Director Gerrard Manus of the New York State Council on the Arts reported 507 grants to small organizations and 300 new grantees this year, but acknowledged slow disbursement of a $10 million legislative add for upstate arts organizations. Assemblyman O'Donnell called the arts budget "criminal" and the lowest since the 1960s, warning that without adequate funding for nonprofit theaters, Broadway's pipeline of new talent will dry up. He pledged not to support tax credits unless the arts budget is restored. The hearing underscored ongoing tensions between upstate and downstate funding priorities, business competitiveness concerns, and questions about whether economic development investments are achieving stated goals of equity and inclusion. NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATORS GRILL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICIALS ON ARTS FUNDING CUTS, ENERGY POLICY IMPACTS, AND PROJECT TRANSPARENCY State lawmakers sharply questioned economic development officials on February 9 over proposed budget cuts to arts funding, the impact of climate policy on manufacturing, and the transparency of major economic development deals during a joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 Executive Budget. The most contentious exchange centered on arts funding. The New York State Council on the Arts faces a dramatic reduction from $85 million in pandemic relief funding to a baseline of $41 million, even as applications increased 25 percent last year. NYSCA Executive Director Mara Manus acknowledged the agency currently funds only about 70 percent of applications and could not explain how it would expand access to underserved communities while facing the proposed cut. Sen. Luis Serrano (D) argued the baseline should have been higher "20 years ago" and questioned the agency's ability to fulfill its stated goals. Senators also challenged Empire State Development Commissioner Hope Knight on the state's aggressive climate policy. Sen. George Borrello (R) warned that the state's conversion to all-electric energy will drive out major manufacturers like Corning Glass and prevent new industrial investment, particularly in Western New York. He criticized the proposed "cap and invest" program as a "Hunger Games" that will benefit large corporations while forcing small manufacturers to relocate to Pennsylvania. Knight defended the policy, noting ESD will advocate for allowances for energy-intensive businesses, but offered no concrete solutions for industries requiring natural gas. Sen. John Liu (D) pressed Knight on the transparency of ESD's economic development database, noting that major projects like Tesla and the newly announced Micron semiconductor facility were not searchable in the public database. Knight acknowledged Tesla funding went through a nonprofit intermediary (Fuller Road) rather than directly to the company, and that Micron has not yet commenced. Liu called for the database to include company names and project references so the public understands state economic development deals. Sen. James Walczyk (R) criticized a stark disparity in state priorities: the Governor is increasing film and television incentives by $280 million (from $420 million to $700 million) while cutting tourism matching grants from $5 million to $2.45 million. He argued local tourism generates significant sales and bed tax revenue across rural New York and deserves comparable investment. On broadband, Sen. Michelle Hinchey (D) pressed for faster deployment of the $1.5 billion ConnectALL initiative, noting the state has allocated $300 million in state funds but federal money has not yet begun flowing. She emphasized the urgency of addressing cell service gaps in rural areas and advocated for prioritizing last-mile broadband buildout. Assemblyman Friend raised concerns about the Buffalo Billion legacy, noting that much equipment purchased for the original tenant remains unused or was resold. He urged the state to make that equipment available to support Micron's expansion in the region. The hearing revealed tensions between the administration's climate and film industry priorities and legislators' concerns about manufacturing competitiveness, rural broadband access, and the pace of federal infrastructure funding deployment. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — Empire State Development Commissioner Hope Knight faced pointed questioning from legislators on February 9 about the elimination of the Restore NY program and the state's economic development strategy during a joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 executive budget. Sen. Tom O'Mara (R) and Assemblyman McDonald expressed concern that Restore NY, which has helped communities rehabilitate vacant and blighted properties, was not reappropriated despite less than half of previous funding being spent. Commissioner Knight said the department is still working through existing allocations and accepting applications, but acknowledged the program has been important for communities. Chair Liz Krueger (D) conducted extensive questioning on transparency and accountability, requesting a comprehensive spreadsheet of all ESD deals, their status, and subsidy amounts. She also pressed Knight on the Micron semiconductor facility deal, which the Governor has touted as bringing 50,000 jobs. Knight clarified that figure includes 9,000 direct Micron jobs, construction workers, and supply chain employees, with a 3-to-1 ratio of supply chain to direct employment. Krueger expressed concern that Micron's stock is plummeting and the company is laying off 10 percent of its workforce, but Knight said the semiconductor industry is cyclical and the project remains on track to begin construction in 2024 and operations in 2026. Knight also defended the expansion of film and television tax credits, citing intense competition from neighboring states. She noted New Jersey has seen 300 percent more productions while New York has declined 25 percent over two years. The budget proposes capping above-the-line compensation at $500,000 per role—a first for the state—to compete with states offering uncapped credits. OGS Commissioner RuthAnne Visnauskas reported progress on electrification and sustainability, noting that replacing a steam-driven chiller with an electric one at Empire State Plaza reduced emissions by 18 percent. She outlined plans to transition 18,000 state vehicles to electric by 2035 and said OGS has exceeded the Governor's 30 percent MWBE vendor target, currently at 43 percent with over $1.17 billion in contracts awarded. NYSCA Executive Director Mara Manus reported the agency funded 79 percent of demand in the previous year and expressed concern about the elimination of $40 million in capital funding for small and mid-sized arts organizations, noting 82 percent of grantees have budgets under $3 million. Sen. Serrano questioned the impact of eliminating capital grants during a period of continued pandemic-related facility needs. Assemblywoman Jackson raised concerns about racial and ethnic disparities in job growth and workforce development, asking for demographic breakdowns of employment gains and questioning whether workforce development sites are geographically aligned with job opportunities. NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE — Economic development officials faced pointed questions about program effectiveness and equity during a joint Senate-Assembly budget hearing on Thursday, with lawmakers expressing skepticism about the state's sprawling network of tax incentives and development agencies. Sen. Sean Ryan delivered a sharp critique of Industrial Development Agencies, citing reports showing that the 107 IDAs across New York distribute roughly $1.8 billion annually but often fail to deliver promised results. He highlighted cases where IDAs subsidized companies that would have relocated anyway—including $150 million to Amazon by Gates, $70 million by Clay, and $18 million by East Fishkill—and questioned whether taxpayer dollars should support fast-food chains and gyms. "Do we need to rein in the IDAs?" Ryan asked. "Are we happy with them subsidizing A&W Root Beer, the Moe's, fast-food places, and Gold's Gym?" Ryan Silva, executive director of the New York State Economic Development Council, defended IDAs, citing data showing they created 175,000 net new jobs in 2020—the pandemic year when the state lost over 1 million jobs overall. He argued IDAs remain "the best local economic development tool we have in our community for retaining and creating jobs." Commissioner Hope Knight of Empire State Development outlined the executive budget's economic development proposals, including $40 million for semiconductor expansion and a Small Business Innovation Research matching grant program offering $10,000 to $50,000 per award. She reported that 1 million households have enrolled in a federal broadband affordability program providing $30 monthly subsidies, and said the state expects federal ConnectALL funding by year-end 2023. Assemblywoman Letitia Lucas raised concerns about equity, noting that over 200,000 Black families have left New York City and that Black student enrollment in city schools has dropped to 23 percent. She pressed officials for demographic breakdowns of who benefits from economic development programs, saying marginalized communities lack a voice in decisions affecting their lives. Ross Frommer, representing Columbia University and the Associated Medical Schools of New York, testified that the NYFIRST program—which attracts top research talent—has generated a four-to-one return on investment and created 183 jobs. He urged continued funding, noting that other states like California and Texas are investing billions in similar programs. The hearing also addressed workforce development, broadband expansion, electric school buses, and the disposition of state-owned properties. Multiple legislators requested follow-up data on program performance and demographic outcomes. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — A joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 executive budget on economic development revealed sharp divisions over whether New York should continue investing billions in business tax incentives or redirect resources to public goods like education and childcare. The hearing, held Feb. 9, featured testimony from economic development officials defending tax credits and industrial development agencies, and advocates arguing the programs are ineffective and drain school funding. Ryan Silva, director of the New York State Economic Development Council, defended the film industry tax credit expansion, stating the industry creates and retains 57,000 union jobs in New York City. He cited Empire State Development's claim of a 9-to-one return on investment for film tax dollars, though acknowledged an Empire Center report found taxpayers spend over $40,000 per job created. Sen. Walczyk, R-Utica, pressed Silva on the discrepancy, questioning whether the Governor's additional $280 million investment—bringing total film tax credits to $700 million—would expand jobs beyond the current 57,000. Silva deferred to a later panel for specifics. Sen. Borrello, R-Gowanda, challenged Silva on the state's Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, arguing that eliminating natural gas will make New York uncompetitive and push manufacturers to Pennsylvania. Silva acknowledged the concern but said carveouts in the CLCPA scoping plan would protect manufacturers needing natural gas access. Opposing the subsidy approach, Ron Deutsch of New Yorkers for Fiscal Fairness called for freezing all new tax incentives pending results of an ongoing study. He cited a Good Jobs First report released the day before showing industrial development agencies cost schools nearly $2 billion annually in lost revenue. Deutsch and other advocates argued New York should instead invest in SUNY and CUNY, which they said generate an $8 return for every dollar invested and retain 78-79 percent of graduates in the state. Elizabeth Marcello of Reinvent Albany noted the Governor's budget cuts community college funding upstate by 8.8 percent while raising film tax credits by 55 percent. Michael Kink of the Strong Economy for All Coalition cited Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis research showing public program investments yield 12-to-one returns in low-income communities, compared to business subsidies that he said lose money. Sen. Ryan, D-Buffalo, appeared persuaded by the advocates' arguments, noting the contrast between $1 billion spent on economic development that hasn't produced the nation's strongest economy, versus SUNY/CUNY investments with documented high returns. Sen. O'Mara, R-Big Flats, defended IDAs as essential for rural regions like the Southern Tier, where state-level funding decisions often ignore regional council recommendations. He said local IDAs provide the only incentive mechanisms available when state programs don't fund projects. The hearing underscored a fundamental debate over economic development philosophy: whether subsidizing private business or investing in public infrastructure and education produces better returns for taxpayers. A joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 executive budget's economic development proposals revealed sharp divisions over the state's approach to business incentives, with critics arguing that traditional tax credits and subsidies have failed to produce results while supporters defended targeted investments in specific industries. Three economic development advocates testified that New York's strategy of providing billions in business subsidies to cities like Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse has not reduced poverty or created sustainable jobs. "The approach we have now is just a failed approach," said one testifier, who advocated instead for expanding earned income tax credits and child tax credits that directly benefit low-income families. Another witness argued that government spending should increase by approximately $70 billion annually—matching Canada's spending level as a percentage of GDP—to fund transformative investments in housing, healthcare, and community development. The hearing's most contentious exchange centered on a proposed $455 million state loan for Belmont Park's redevelopment. John Scheib of Scheib Associates opposed the loan, citing the horse racing industry's declining attendance (down 88% at Belmont since 1978), minimal tax revenue from wagering, and animal welfare concerns. He noted that New York's 11 tracks combined pay only $10 million annually in wagering taxes—the same amount paid 80 years ago with only five tracks. David O'Rourke, CEO of the New York Racing Association, countered that the redevelopment would generate $1 billion in construction-related economic activity, create 3,700 jobs, and produce $155 million in annual economic impact after completion. He emphasized that NYRA would repay the loan with interest and that the project would free up over 100 acres at Aqueduct valued at $1 billion for other development. Sen. Liz Krueger, the Senate chair, pressed O'Rourke on how NYRA would repay the loan if the state terminated its franchise early, and questioned whether other states' track redevelopments had actually increased racing revenues. Sen. John Walczyk challenged testifiers on government spending levels, expressing skepticism about spending comparable to Canada's. Sen. Todd Murray sought a middle ground, agreeing that large corporate subsidies should end but arguing that incentives could be refocused on smaller businesses and childcare. The hearing also included testimony supporting the Empire State Film Post Production Tax Credit, with representatives of the Motion Picture Editors Guild reporting that the sector now directly employs 14,000 people and generates $7.24 billion in economic output annually—up from minimal activity a decade ago. Post-production workers earn an average of $119,000, significantly above the statewide average. Museum Hue's executive director requested a new $100 million funding model over five years to support over 500 arts organizations serving communities of color, which she said have been disproportionately underfunded. She cited data showing the arts sector generates over $100 billion in economic activity and supports 400,000 jobs statewide. NEW YORK — Film production labor unions and regional economic development officials urged the New York State Legislature on Thursday to support Governor Hochul's proposed expansion of the state's film and television tax credit program, warning that competing states like Georgia and New Jersey are luring productions away with more generous incentives. Testifying before the Joint Legislative Committee on Finance, Deirdra Elizabeth Govan, vice president of United Scenic Artists Local 829, said the tax credit has transformed New York into a national production hub, supporting 57,000 direct and indirect workers earning $12 billion annually. However, she warned that sound stages in New York are experiencing significant vacancy rates for the first time in years as productions migrate to other states. Tim Clark, film commissioner for Western New York and immediate past chair of the Association of Film Commissioners International, described a dramatic transformation in Buffalo, where IATSE union membership grew from about a dozen members to nearly 200 since the tax credit's implementation. He noted that movies once set in Buffalo were filmed in Winnipeg and Toronto, but now the city doubles for Los Angeles, Hartford, and other locations. However, the testimony revealed significant legislative divisions over the Governor's proposal to expand credits to above-the-line talent—directors, producers, and actors earning up to $500,000. Chairwoman Liz Krueger expressed skepticism, arguing that famous actors living in New York would be hired anyway and questioning why taxpayers should subsidize an already-successful industry. "I just don't see why we should actually be giving up our tax revenues for, with all respect, them," she said. Senator Walczyk raised concerns about budget priorities, noting the Governor's proposal includes a $2.5 million cut to local tourism matching grants while increasing film credits by $280 million to a total of $700 million. He suggested the industry could function adequately with $697.5 million. Govan also highlighted a critical operational problem: productions wait one to three years after completion to claim tax credits, and the $430 million annual allocation is exhausted and rolls over into subsequent years, never catching up. This delay, she testified, is driving productions to other states. The hearing, held February 9, 2023, examined the 2023-2024 executive budget's economic development provisions.

Topic Summary

This joint hearing examined Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 Executive Budget proposals for economic development, focusing on three agencies: Empire State Development, the Office of General Services, and the New York State Council on the Arts. Testimony covered major initiatives including the Micron semiconductor facility in Central New York, workforce development programs, procurement modernization, and arts and culture funding.

Testimony (33)

Hope Knight agency_official informational
Commissioner, New York State Department of Economic Development; President & CEO, Empire State Development
Knight highlighted ESD's accomplishments over the past year, including support for over 50,000 small businesses through Governor Hochul's assistance programs, the Micron semiconductor facility deal worth $100 billion, and the launch of the Office of Strategic Workforce Development. She discussed transparency improvements to the Database of Economic Incentives, expansion of life sciences initiatives, and increased film tax credits to attract productions to New York.
Commissioner Hope Knight agency_official informational
Empire State Development
Commissioner Knight presented ESD's budget priorities, highlighting the Office of Workforce Development serving 3,000 trainees across 100 businesses, primarily in advanced manufacturing through partnerships with nonprofit training providers. She discussed the FAST NY shovel-ready program, START-UP NY (to be rebranded EPIC), Centers of Excellence funding, and the Micron semiconductor project. She emphasized ESD's focus on inclusive economic development and private-sector-driven workforce training.
Mara Manus agency_official informational
New York State Council on the Arts (NYSCA), Executive Director
Manus testified about NYSCA's grant-making processes and the impact of proposed budget reductions. She explained that pandemic relief funding of over $85 million in each of the last two years has returned to pre-pandemic levels of $41 million. She discussed the agency's efforts to expand access to grants through application process overhauls and addressed concerns about grant distribution timelines and regional arts council funding mechanisms.
Hope Knight agency_official informational
Empire State Development Commissioner
Commissioner Knight provided testimony on ESD's economic development programs and budget priorities. She defended the elimination of Restore NY funding, stating the department is still working through existing allocations. She explained the Micron semiconductor deal as a pay-for-performance model and addressed concerns about film tax credit expansion and competitiveness with neighboring states.
Commissioner Hope Knight agency_official informational
Empire State Development
Commissioner Knight provided testimony on the executive budget's economic development proposals, including workforce development programs, broadband expansion through ConnectALL, tax credit reviews, semiconductor expansion initiatives, and small business innovation research matching grants. She addressed questions about EMS workforce shortages, youth retention programs, and digital equity initiatives.
Ryan Silva industry supportive
New York State Economic Development Council
Silva defended film tax credits and IDAs as effective economic development tools. He stated the film industry creates and retains 57,000 union jobs in New York City and argued that without tax credits, the industry would suffer. He acknowledged concerns about natural gas phase-out timelines under CLCPA but expressed support for the law in principle, while cautioning that implementation timelines must not disadvantage New York competitively. He expressed openness to IDA reforms including school board representation and alternative funding mechanisms.
Mr. Deutsch advocate opposed
Not specified
Deutsch argued that traditional business subsidies and tax credits have failed to produce results, citing Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse as examples of cities that received billions in incentives yet maintain the highest child poverty rates in America. He advocated for redirecting funds toward earned income tax credits, child tax credits, and underutilized programs like the Entrepreneurial Assistance Program.
Deirdra Elizabeth Govan advocate supportive
Vice President, United Scenic Artists Local 829
Govan testified on behalf of film production labor unions about the success of New York's film tax credit in transforming the state into a national production hub. She emphasized the program's role in creating 57,000 direct and indirect jobs annually with $12 billion in wages, and highlighted how competing states like Georgia and New Jersey have enacted more competitive incentive programs, causing some productions to relocate. She also noted the program's positive impact on workforce diversity and union apprenticeship programs.
Jeanette Moy agency_official informational
Commissioner, New York State Office of General Services
Moy outlined OGS's role in providing shared services across state government and discussed the Governor's Executive Budget proposal of $1.3 billion for the agency. She highlighted major initiatives including implementation of eProcurement systems, the new Office of Language Access, the Office of Resiliency and Stability for climate goals, and a $175.5 million infrastructure package for Empire State Plaza. She detailed OGS's management of state real property, construction projects, and human resources services.
Kevin Younis agency_official informational
Empire State Development, Chief Operating Officer
COO Younis provided details on the Micron semiconductor project's sustainability commitments, including 100 percent renewable electricity, greenhouse gas emissions reductions, LEED certification goals, and coordination with NYSERDA and DEC. He explained that sustainability goals are contingent upon receipt of enhanced benefits and that Micron's renewable energy commitments create demand drivers for renewable energy production across the state.
Commissioner Hope Knight agency_official informational
Empire State Development (ESD)
Commissioner Knight testified on major economic development initiatives including the Micron semiconductor project, Tesla operations at the RiverBend facility, film and television incentives, and broadband connectivity through ConnectALL. She addressed concerns about energy policy impacts on manufacturing and discussed ESD's role in supporting small businesses and economic development across the state.
RuthAnne Visnauskas agency_official informational
OGS Commissioner
Commissioner Moy testified on OGS's capital projects, property management, and electrification efforts. She discussed the Empire State Plaza improvements, including LED lighting installation and electric chiller replacement that reduced emissions by 18 percent. She outlined plans to transition 18,000 light-duty vehicles to EV by 2035 and discussed MWBE vendor contracting achievements.
Commissioner Sheila Moy agency_official informational
Office of General Services (OGS)
Commissioner Moy addressed questions about EV charging infrastructure in state buildings, electric school bus procurement, and disposition of state-owned properties. She discussed timelines for charging station installation, confidence in school bus procurement processes, and efforts to expedite property sales.
David Frommer academic informational
Columbia University Medical Center
Frommer testified about attracting scientific talent and research funding to New York. He emphasized that bringing in talented researchers brings associated federal research grants (RO1 grants tied to primary investigators worth $1-3 million each). He noted Columbia's partnership with Bassett Healthcare in Cooperstown for medical education. He acknowledged childcare challenges during the pandemic but deferred expertise on specific policy solutions.
Ms. Marcello advocate opposed
Not specified
Marcello agreed with Deutsch's critique, adding that business subsidies not only fail to create jobs but also contribute to increased inequality in communities.
Tim Clark agency_official supportive
Film Commissioner, Western New York; Immediate Past Chair, Association of Film Commissioners International
Clark testified about the transformative impact of New York's film tax credit on Western New York, particularly Buffalo. He described how the region shifted from having almost no film production to becoming a movie-making destination, with hundreds of good-paying jobs created and union membership dramatically increased. He noted that before the tax credit, movies set in Buffalo were filmed in Winnipeg, Toronto, and Southern California, but now Buffalo doubles for various cities. He advocated for the Governor's proposal while noting some productions have been lost to New Jersey and Ohio due to higher incentives.
Mara Manus agency_official informational
Executive Director, New York State Council on the Arts
Manus testified about NYSCA's role in supporting the arts and culture sector across New York State. She highlighted the sector's economic impact, recent restructuring of grant-making processes to increase access, and the results of historic funding increases. She discussed capital projects funded by NYSCA and the sector's role in tourism and economic development, as well as expansion of arts programming in correctional facilities.
Gerrard Manus agency_official informational
New York State Council on the Arts, Executive Director
Director Manus discussed NYSCA's grant modernization efforts, including a new SmartSimple application portal that reduced applications to three pages and increased accessibility. He reported that 507 grants were made to organizations with budgets under $250,000 and that 82 percent of grants go to organizations with budgets under $3 million. He acknowledged COVID's impact on the arts sector, including decreased audiences, decreased revenue, and increased operating costs, and noted that 78 percent of small grants ($10,000 and under) had been paid out as of the hearing date.
Kevin Younis agency_official informational
Empire State Development (ESD), Chief Operating Officer
COO Younis provided clarifications on equipment disposition from the Buffalo Billion project and explained that Tesla was not the original tenant at the RiverBend facility. He noted that some equipment was resold on the market because the original tenant's operations differed from Tesla's eventual use.
Mara Manus agency_official informational
New York State Council on the Arts Executive Director
Executive Director Manus testified on NYSCA's funding and grant-making activities. She reported that the agency funded 79 percent of demand in the previous year and noted that the majority of grantees (82 percent) have budgets below $3 million. She expressed concern about the elimination of $40 million in capital funding and discussed the volume of contracts managed by the agency.
NYSCA Executive Director Manus agency_official informational
New York State Council on the Arts (NYSCA)
NYSCA Executive Director Manus responded to questions about funding distribution to BIPOC organizations. He stated that NYSCA does not currently capture data on the percentage of funding going to minority and women-owned organizations, but indicated the council prioritizes underrepresented communities and recently overhauled its application process.
Ron Deutsch advocate opposed
New Yorkers for Fiscal Fairness
Deutsch called for freezing all new tax incentives, abatements, and credits pending results of an ongoing PFM study. He cited a Good Jobs First report released the day before showing IDAs are costing schools nearly $2 billion annually in lost revenue. He argued that real economic development is SUNY/CUNY investment and childcare, noting SUNY/CUNY graduates have a 78-79% retention rate in New York State. He advocated for reframing economic development away from business subsidies.
Mr. Kink advocate opposed
Not specified
Kink criticized the lack of concentrated attention on targeting lowest-income communities with federal stimulus money. He argued that New York could increase investments by approximately $70 billion annually if it matched Canada's government spending as a percentage of GDP, which would enable transformative investments in housing, energy, healthcare, and community development.
Ms. Myers advocate supportive
United Scenic Artists Local 829 (implied from context)
Myers testified as a working costume designer and union officer about the need for competitive tax incentives to retain productions in New York. She shared a personal experience of losing a job when a production relocated to Georgia due to accommodation fees, arguing that the above-the-line tax credit expansion is necessary to compete with other states like New Jersey and Georgia.
Commissioner Sheila Moy agency_official informational
Office of General Services (OGS)
Commissioner Moy testified on OGS programs including the Service Disabled Veteran Owned Business certification program, state procurement modernization through e-procurement systems, and capital renovation projects. She discussed efforts to make state contracting more accessible to small businesses and vendors.
Ryan Silva advocate supportive
New York State Economic Development Council
Silva testified on behalf of the Economic Development Council, advocating for reauthorization and increased funding for several programs including Shovel-Ready/FAST NY, Restore NY, workforce development, Centers for Advanced Technologies, SBIR matching grants, digital gaming tax credit, and Green CHIPS. He highlighted the success of these programs and urged the Legislature to prioritize them in the final budget.
Elizabeth Marcello advocate opposed
Reinvent Albany
Marcello testified that New York State spends an estimated $5 billion annually on economic development mostly through tax breaks for big businesses. She cited the 2013 Governor's Tax Reform and Fairness Commission report finding that business incentives violate good tax policy principles and research since the 1950s shows they do not impact net economic gains. She contrasted this with high-return public investments like community colleges and urged rejection of the Governor's budget expansion of film tax credits while cutting community college funding.
John Scheib advocate opposed
Scheib Associates
Scheib testified against the proposed $455 million state loan for Belmont Park, arguing that horse racing is a gambling business, not a public works project. He cited declining attendance, minimal tax revenue from wagering, and animal welfare concerns, noting that 854 horses have died at Belmont and Aqueduct since 2009.
Ross Frommer academic supportive
Columbia University Irving Medical Center / Associated Medical Schools of New York
Frommer testified on behalf of NYFIRST program and the Associated Medical Schools of New York, advocating for continued and increased funding. He highlighted the program's success in attracting top research talent, creating high-paying jobs, and generating strong return on investment. He noted that other states are investing billions in similar programs and urged New York to remain competitive.
Michael Kink advocate opposed
Strong Economy for All Coalition
Kink argued for investing in public goods like education, early education, clean energy, and housing rather than business subsidies. He cited Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis studies showing 12-to-one payoff for investments in low-income communities and 8-to-one across-the-board payoff. He criticized the system as structurally broken, noting lack of data on hiring equity, clean energy impacts, and basic facts. He cited the $1.8 billion IDA school defunding report and called for a pause on new subsidies and passage of the Ryan-Bronson bill.
David O'Rourke industry supportive
New York Racing Association (NYRA), President and CEO
O'Rourke testified in support of the Belmont Park redevelopment loan, arguing that horse racing generates 19,000 jobs and $3 billion in annual economic impact statewide. He claimed the construction project will create $1 billion in economic activity, 3,700 jobs, and $45 million in tax revenues, with the facility generating $155 million in annual economic impact and 740 new full-time jobs after completion.
Stephanie Johnson Cunningham advocate supportive
Museum Hue, Executive Director
Cunningham testified on behalf of Museum Hue and colleagues advocating for increased funding for arts and culture organizations serving communities of color. She requested a new $100 million funding model over five years to support over 500 identified Black, Indigenous, and people of color arts entities across New York State.
Jennifer Myers industry supportive
Motion Picture Editors Guild, IATSE Local 700, Field Representative
Myers testified in support of enhancing and extending the Empire State Film Post Production Tax Credit. She highlighted the sector's explosive growth, noting that New York is now the second-largest venue for domestic post-production work after California. The post-production ecosystem directly employs 14,000 people and indirectly supports 15,000 more jobs, generating $2.43 billion in labor income and $7.24 billion in economic output.

Senator Engagement (32)

Senator Engagement Stance Focus Areas Summary
Sen. Assemblyman Otis supportive Authenticity of filming locations matching storyline settings Community pride in seeing local cities depicted accurately on screen Assemblyman Otis expressed support for the film tax credit's role in bringing authentic filming back to locations like Buffalo, noting his personal experience of watching a 2007 film set in Buffalo that was actually shot in Winnipeg. His comments emphasized the cultural and community benefits of the program.
Sen. Assemblywoman Woerner neutral Delays in claiming tax credits after production completion Backlog of productions awaiting credits Rollover periods and exhaustion of allocations Assemblywoman Woerner asked clarifying questions about the mechanics of credit delays and backlogs, seeking to understand the operational challenges of the program. Her engagement was informational rather than advocacy-oriented.
Sen. Borrello skeptical CLCPA energy conversion requirements Impact on manufacturing and industrial businesses Natural gas-dependent industries (cheese plants, glass manufacturing, steel) Cap and invest program concerns Sen. Borrello expressed strong skepticism about the state's conversion to all-electric energy policy, arguing it will drive out major employers like Corning Glass and prevent attraction of new manufacturing. He challenged the viability of the cap and invest program for small manufacturers.
Sen. Borrello skeptical Natural gas elimination and manufacturing competitiveness CLCPA implementation timeline Job retention and business relocation risk Clean energy transition feasibility Sen. Borrello challenged Silva on the feasibility of CLCPA implementation, arguing that eliminating natural gas will make New York uncompetitive and push manufacturers to Pennsylvania. He characterized Silva's support for CLCPA as 'divorced from the reality of what it means to have economic development in New York State.'
Sen. Cooney supportive FAST NY shovel-ready program funding Site-readiness for upstate communities Green CHIPS and semiconductor supply chain opportunities Arts funding and grant disbursement timelines Regional distribution of arts funding Support for historic theaters and individual artists Sen. Cooney expressed strong support for increased investment in the FAST NY shovel-ready program, emphasizing its importance for upstate communities and small/midsized cities. He praised the Green CHIPS bill and Micron investment while advocating for expanded opportunities for supply chain and manufacturing businesses. He also highlighted concerns about slow arts grant disbursement and advocated for better support of small arts organizations and individual artists outside NYC.
Sen. Cooney supportive Digital gaming tax credit competitiveness Job creation in digital gaming sector Sen. Cooney expressed support for the digital gaming tax credit program and asked about its competitiveness relative to other states. He indicated openness to increasing funding within the five-year window if needed to remain competitive and highlighted the talent production from RIT, RPI, and NYU.
Sen. Hinchey supportive Cell service coverage gaps as safety and economic development issue ConnectALL initiative status and funding deployment Broadband last-mile buildout Federal funding timeline and state budget allocation Sen. Hinchey supported ConnectALL but pressed for faster deployment of the $1.5 billion allocated (federal and state) and requested updates on pilot project selection. She emphasized the urgency of addressing cell service gaps in rural areas and advocated for prioritizing last-mile broadband buildout.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Database of Deals transparency Cost-benefit analysis of economic development projects Micron deal job projections Film tax credit expansion and above-the-line compensation Standardized metrics for evaluating subsidies Chair Krueger conducted extensive questioning focused on transparency and accountability in economic development spending. She expressed nervousness about the Micron deal despite its popularity, questioned the 50,000 job projection, and pushed for standardized cost-benefit analyses and clear metrics to evaluate whether subsidies represent good use of taxpayer money. She requested a comprehensive spreadsheet of all ESD deals and their status.
Sen. Krueger neutral Hearing administration Time management Coordination with Assembly Sen. Krueger co-chaired the hearing and managed testimony flow, enforcing time limits and coordinating between Senate and Assembly panels. She thanked OGS for elevator repairs and acknowledged Assembly members joining the hearing.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Tax abatement effectiveness NYRA loan repayment mechanism Franchise termination risk VLT revenue allocation Evidence of track redevelopment success in other states Sen. Krueger, as chair, asked pointed questions about whether states with fewer tax abatements have lower base taxes, and pressed O'Rourke on how NYRA would repay the loan if the franchise ended early, what capital improvements would be foregone, and whether other states' track redevelopments actually increased racing revenues.
Sen. Krueger opposed Expansion of credits to above-the-line talent (directors, movie stars) Residency requirements for above-the-line beneficiaries New York-based storyline incentives Tourism promotion through film content Subsidy justification for already-successful industry Chairwoman Krueger expressed skepticism about extending tax credits to above-the-line talent, arguing that famous actors living in New York would be hired anyway and questioning why taxpayers should subsidize already-successful industry figures. She advocated for tying credits to residency requirements and New York-based storylines to promote tourism, signaling opposition to the Governor's proposed expansion.
Sen. Liu skeptical ESD database transparency and completeness Tesla and Micron inclusion in economic development database Fuller Road nonprofit involvement in Buffalo Billion Database accuracy and public accessibility Sen. Liu questioned the completeness and transparency of ESD's economic development database, noting that major projects like Tesla and Micron were not searchable or visible in the database. He advocated for including company names and project references to improve public understanding of state economic development deals.
Sen. Liz Krueger neutral Hearing procedures and rules Testimony management As chair of the Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Krueger presided over the hearing, established ground rules for testimony and questioning, and managed the flow of the proceeding. She made light of Mara Manus finishing early, awarding her 'extra points.'
Sen. Murray opposed Unemployment Insurance assessment surcharge Federal loan forgiveness window Business competitiveness START-UP NY rebranding to EPIC Small business support programs Sen. Murray was highly critical of the state's decision not to take advantage of a federal interest-free window to repay the $9.2 billion unemployment insurance loan. She argued this decision places an unfair burden on businesses, citing $162 million in interest payments last year and potential total costs of $750 million over a decade. She questioned how this helps attract businesses like Micron and expressed concern about business outflow from the state.
Sen. Murray supportive Childcare as workforce development barrier On-site childcare incentives Regulatory streamlining for childcare facilities Governor's childcare initiatives Sen. Murray advocated for increased childcare incentives and on-site childcare services as workforce development tools. She praised the Governor's commitment to addressing childcare and emphasized the need to reduce regulatory obstacles while maintaining safety standards.
Sen. Murray supportive Refocusing incentives on smaller businesses Childcare as economic development priority Competitive disadvantage versus other states Difference between grants and loans Sen. Murray expressed agreement with critiques of large corporate subsidies but advocated for refocusing incentives on smaller businesses and childcare. She emphasized the need to compete with other states offering incentives and distinguished NYRA's loan proposal from the Buffalo Bills grant, noting the loan would be repaid with interest.
Sen. O'Mara skeptical Restore NY program elimination State affordability and cost of living Prison redevelopment funding Economic development effectiveness Sen. O'Mara expressed strong concern about the elimination of Restore NY funding and questioned whether current economic development programs are effective. He challenged the administration's approach, noting New York's reputation as the most expensive state for business and living, and argued that more focus should be on lowering everyday costs rather than targeted programs.
Sen. O'Mara supportive Regional Economic Development Council effectiveness State-level decision-making dominance Local IDA importance for depressed regions Southern Tier economic development Sen. O'Mara defended IDAs as critical tools for regions like the Southern Tier where state-level funding decisions often ignore regional council recommendations. He emphasized that local IDAs provide the only incentive mechanisms available when state programs don't fund projects.
Sen. Oberacker supportive Food science and culinary research development Agricultural region economic development SUNY partnerships with regional institutions Return on investment for regional initiatives Sen. Oberacker, a former food scientist, proposed extending the biomedical research talent attraction model to food science and culinary fields. He highlighted regional SUNY institutions and Bassett Healthcare partnerships as models for economic development.
Sen. Ryan skeptical Workforce development program coordination Tracking effectiveness of ESD-funded programs Centralized database for metrics Sen. Ryan expressed concern about the lack of coordination among New York's 500 workforce development programs scattered across departments. He questioned how ESD tracks effectiveness and suggested ESD should serve as a coordinating authority to ensure programs are effective.
Sen. Ryan supportive Arts funding levels Restore NY program funding Empire State Plaza maintenance issues Sen. Ryan thanked NYSCA for its work and questioned the modest increase in arts funding from $46.9 million in 2018 to $48 million currently. He also asked about unspent Restore NY funds and whether applications exceed available budget, and raised concerns about deferred maintenance at the Empire State Plaza.
Sen. Ryan skeptical Industrial Development Agencies (IDAs) Economic development effectiveness Taxpayer accountability Small Business Innovation Research Sen. Ryan posed a pointed, confrontational question about IDA performance, citing reports showing underperformance and wasteful subsidies to fast-food chains and companies like Amazon. He questioned whether IDAs represent effective use of taxpayer dollars and whether they should be reined in. He also expressed support for SBIR matching grant programs.
Sen. Ryan skeptical Effectiveness of business subsidies Return on investment comparisons Where resources should be allocated SUNY/CUNY versus economic development spending Sen. Ryan pressed advocates on why $1 billion in economic development spending hasn't yielded the strongest economy among 50 states, and questioned the logic of spending on ineffective programs. He appeared convinced by testimony that SUNY/CUNY provide better ROI than business subsidies.
Sen. Ryan neutral Arts organizations and their missions Sen. Ryan asked Cunningham to describe the organizations represented, seeking more information about Museum Hue's work and mission.
Sen. Ryan supportive Unionization requirements in Buffalo vs. downstate productions Film production migration from Toronto to Western New York Above-the-line vs. below-the-line tax credit distinctions Competitiveness of 25-30 percent tax credit rates Sen. Ryan asked detailed questions about workforce unionization standards, the shift of productions from Canada to Western New York, and the mechanics of above-the-line versus below-the-line credits. His questions suggested support for the film tax credit program and interest in understanding how it benefits his region.
Sen. Sean Ryan skeptical Transparency in economic development programs Database of Economic Incentives usability Economic impact analysis and return on investment NYSTAR program and science/technology funding Workforce development programs and outcomes Sen. Ryan asked pointed questions about the usability and completeness of the Database of Economic Incentives, noting it was 'clunky' with 3,200 incentives and missing data. He pressed Commissioner Knight on the timeline for the economic impact study, the status of NYSTAR funding, and the effectiveness of the $350 million workforce development investment, signaling concern about accountability and measurable outcomes.
Sen. Serrano supportive Arts funding and NYSCA budget reductions Grant application process expansion Regional arts council funding mechanisms Grant distribution timelines Sen. Serrano strongly advocated for arts funding, emphasizing the arts' role in healing post-pandemic, social justice, and economic development. He expressed concern about the proposed reduction from $85 million pandemic relief to $41 million baseline funding and questioned how NYSCA could expand access while facing budget cuts.
Sen. Serrano opposed NYSCA capital grants elimination Arts organization funding needs Sen. Serrano questioned the elimination of $40 million in capital funding for small and mid-sized arts organizations, noting the pandemic-related needs for ventilation upgrades and ADA compliance. He expressed concern about the impact on the majority of grantees with budgets under $3 million.
Sen. Walczyk skeptical Film and television incentive funding disparity Tourism matching grants reduction Government spending as percentage of GDP Prison redevelopment funding Sen. Walczyk criticized the $280 million increase in film and television incentives while tourism matching grants were reduced from $5 million to $2.45 million. He argued local tourism generates significant sales and bed tax revenue and questioned the state's spending priorities relative to GDP.
Sen. Walczyk skeptical Film tax credit return on investment Cost per job created in film industry Whether $280 million increase will expand jobs beyond 57,000 Regional economic development priorities Sen. Walczyk pressed Silva on the discrepancy between ESD's claimed 9-to-one ROI and Empire Center's $40,000 per job figure. As an upstate senator, he expressed skepticism about film tax credit spending and preference for tax cuts and tourism promotion in his region, though acknowledged understanding the broader picture.
Sen. Walczyk skeptical Government spending as percentage of GDP Comparison of tax burden between New York and Canada Economic growth outlook Sen. Walczyk challenged the testifiers' claims about return on investment for tax credits and pressed them on what percentage of GDP should be spent on government. He expressed skepticism about high government spending levels, stating he 'can't imagine a New York that has a good economic outlook' with spending levels comparable to Canada.
Sen. Walczyk skeptical Governor's $700 million post-production tax credit proposal $280 million increase over prior year Trade-off between film credits and local tourism matching grants Whether industry could survive with $697.5 million instead of $700 million Sen. Walczyk challenged the prioritization of the film tax credit expansion, noting the Governor's simultaneous $2.5 million cut to local tourism matching grants. He suggested the film industry could function adequately with $2.5 million less in credits and advocated for restoring tourism funding, signaling skepticism about the proposed budget priorities.

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