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2023-02-13 JOINT LEGISLATIVE HEARING In the Matter of the 2023-2024 EXECUTIVE BUDGET ON HUMAN SERVICES Chair: Sen. Liz Krueger View full transcript → Archive

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NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE — Governors Hochul's proposed 2023-2024 budget for human services drew mixed reactions during a joint legislative hearing Monday, with lawmakers expressing particular concern about the stability of the state's childcare sector despite unprecedented funding increases. Acting Commissioner Suzanne Miles-Gustave of the Office of Children and Family Services presented a $7.6 billion, four-year commitment to childcare assistance—the largest in state history—along with proposals to streamline applications and increase income eligibility limits to 85 percent of state median income. The budget would make an estimated 113,000 additional children eligible for assistance. However, Sen. Jabari Brisport, chair of the Senate Committee on Children and Families, pressed Miles-Gustave on the sector's continued deterioration. He cited data showing New York has lost roughly 20,000 childcare slots since 2020, with some regions losing over 50 percent of capacity over the past decade. Brisport questioned whether the proposed $389 million in third-round stabilization grants—funded by one-time federal pandemic dollars—would actually stabilize the sector or merely provide temporary relief. "Would you say the childcare sector is stable now?" Brisport asked. Miles-Gustave acknowledged it was not, saying the sector "is in crisis." Commissioner Daniel Tietz of the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance highlighted other major budget initiatives, including $1 billion to help New York City shelter and serve asylum seekers arriving in record numbers, and continuation of the Governor's $25 billion five-year housing plan to create or preserve 100,000 affordable units. Tietz reported that the Emergency Rental Assistance Program has made more than 225,000 payments totaling $2.8 billion, with nearly nine of 10 payments benefiting households at or below 50 percent of area median income. The application portal closed January 20. Assemblywoman Maritza Davila, chair of the Assembly Social Services Committee, questioned the distribution of funds for a new Youth Opportunities Program targeting communities with high gun violence rates. Tietz clarified the program would operate outside New York City, with funding based on the WIOA program formula. The hearing, held in Hearing Room B of the Legislative Office Building, included testimony from state agency officials and was attended by members of both the Senate Finance Committee and Assembly Ways and Means Committee. Additional testimony from advocacy groups and service providers is scheduled to continue. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — The state's top human services officials faced pointed questioning on childcare equity, fraud prevention, and funding disparities during a joint legislative budget hearing on Feb. 13, with lawmakers pressing for faster action on provider compensation and expanded access to vulnerable populations. Acting OCFS Commissioner Miles-Gustave outlined an ambitious childcare expansion plan that would make an additional 113,000 children eligible for assistance by raising the income threshold to 85% of State Median Income. However, she acknowledged a persistent gap between what the state reimburses childcare providers and the true cost of care—a disparity that drew sharp questioning from Sen. Brisport, who challenged the logic of paying providers less than their operating costs. The commissioner noted that current reimbursement rates at the 80th percentile have increased provider payments by an average of 33%, with some regions seeing 40% increases. Yet she conceded that OCFS has not conducted a cost-of-care study to determine how much additional funding would be needed to fully cover provider expenses. She attributed this partly to the failure of the federal Build Back Better legislation to pass. Sen. Brisport also pressed Miles-Gustave on the exclusion of undocumented children from state-funded childcare, noting that New York City uses local funds to serve this population. The commissioner responded that federal restrictions apply to CCDF funds, though the state operates 278 Head Start and Early Start programs that serve undocumented children. OTDA Commissioner Tietz addressed the escalating crisis of stolen public benefits, announcing plans to allow recipients to replace up to two months of stolen SNAP and public assistance benefits twice yearly, pending USDA approval. However, he acknowledged that no state currently has chip-enabled EBT cards—a technology that could prevent fraud—and estimated implementation would take "a couple of years." Sen. Persaud raised longstanding equity concerns, questioning why the state continues to reimburse New York City for only 85% of TANF-eligible costs while paying 100% in all other districts. Tietz acknowledged the disparity predates his tenure by roughly a decade but offered no commitment to change it, deferring to the Legislature and Governor. On migrant services, Tietz broke down the $1 billion allocation: $767 million for shelter and services, $130 million for Medicaid, and approximately $150 million for National Guard deployment. He also disclosed that approximately 73,000 subsidized housing ERAP applications remain on hold due to prioritization rules that favor non-subsidized housing. Sen. Murray praised the administration's childcare initiatives as addressing a "threefold crisis" of access, provider availability, and workforce shortages. He urged engagement with business groups including NFIB and the Business Council to create public-private partnerships, suggesting that employers offering childcare benefits would attract better workers. The hearing revealed significant implementation challenges ahead: Miles-Gustave acknowledged that only 10% of currently eligible children receive assistance, attributed partly to a "cumbersome and antiquated" application process. She outlined plans for a statewide online application system, but Assemblywoman Byrnes raised concerns about rural areas lacking internet access, prompting Miles-Gustave to describe a multimedia outreach campaign using radio, TV, bus, and billboard advertising. Both commissioners faced questions about workforce capacity. Byrnes asked pointedly: "At some point you have to have bodies to take care of them." Miles-Gustave acknowledged that increasing childcare supply is a main focus but did not provide specific targets or timelines. The hearing underscored tensions between ambitious policy goals and fiscal constraints. Sen. Murray questioned how long the state's reliance on $800 million in rollover funds and $500 million in federal pandemic funds would last, and whether costs would eventually shift to counties. Miles-Gustave cited the Governor's four-year, $7.6 billion childcare commitment but did not address long-term sustainability beyond the pandemic funding window. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — State human services officials faced pointed questions from lawmakers on Tuesday about whether the Governor's 2023-2024 budget adequately addresses critical gaps in detention capacity, childcare access, and child poverty reduction. Acting OCFS Commissioner Sheila Miles-Gustave acknowledged that Raise the Age implementation has been hampered by pandemic delays, with secure detention bed expansion stalled. She projected that 150 additional beds will be available within two to three years from county capital plans, but acknowledged current capacity constraints: New York City has approximately 212 secure beds while the rest of the state has roughly 179. The commissioner noted that staffing shortages are preventing some counties from fully utilizing existing beds. Sen. Rolison, drawing on his experience as former Poughkeepsie mayor, pressed for details on the timeline and capacity, while Sen. Brisport challenged the agency's claims about childcare provider waitlists, citing recent testimony from providers reporting unprecedented demand. On child poverty, Sen. Gounardes expressed skepticism about the budget's approach, noting New York has among the highest child poverty rates nationally and questioning why the budget lacks substantial increases in child tax credits. Commissioner Tietz acknowledged the Child Poverty Reduction Advisory Council will make recommendations in early March but said those proposals are not yet in the budget. Migrant services dominated discussion, with Commissioner Tietz explaining that approximately 900 National Guard troops are providing program support in New York City shelters. The budget covers roughly 29 percent of the city's estimated migrant costs. Sen. Persaud pressed for details on federal hot meals program funding, with Tietz projecting a response within 60 days. On childcare, the commissioners defended a $389 million stabilization grant proposal as adequate, down from $1 billion at the pandemic's height. But Assemblywoman Forrest questioned whether the reduced funding would prevent provider closures. The hearing revealed significant gaps between statutory obligations and budget allocations: child welfare funding remains at 62 percent state reimbursement despite a 65 percent statutory requirement, and only 66,000 of 100,000 eligible families receive childcare subsidies. Multiple lawmakers signaled they expect follow-up written responses to unanswered questions. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — State officials faced intense scrutiny over the Governor's $1 billion migrant services allocation during a joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 Executive Budget on February 13, with Sen. Krueger challenging whether the funds represent genuinely new spending or relabeled existing expenditures. OTDA Commissioner Tietz testified that the allocation—primarily directed to New York City—includes $741 million for a 29 percent state reimbursement of shelter and supportive services costs, $162 million for National Guard personnel, and $25 million for resettlement. However, Sen. Krueger pressed Tietz on whether Medicaid and safety net costs included in the billion-dollar figure should be counted as migrant-specific funding, given that eligible individuals would receive these benefits regardless of immigration status. "What percentage of that billion is actually new money versus dollars that would have been in the budget anyway, we just call it something different this year?" Krueger asked. Tietz responded that "the vast majority is new money," citing the $741 million shelter reimbursement as clearly new. The hearing revealed acute strain on New York City's shelter system. Tietz acknowledged approximately 21,000 migrants in Department of Homeless Services facilities and 8,000 in Health Emergency Response Centers, alongside 49,000 non-migrant shelter residents. He admitted concern about "the potential collapse of DHS" and noted that the 900 National Guard personnel represent critical capacity that would otherwise be unavailable. Sen. Krueger warned of impending system breakdown, stating: "I really feel like we are literally at the verge of just total chaos in trying to operate these programs." She highlighted a shortage of nonprofit service providers willing to staff new shelters and HERCs, a problem Tietz acknowledged. On other human services programs, Commissioner Tietz reported that the Emergency Rental Assistance Program has distributed $2.82 billion through approximately 225,000 checks, with roughly $300 million remaining of the $3.1 billion appropriation. The Landlord Rental Assistance Program, now closed, made nearly 28,000 payments totaling $283 million. Tietz indicated the ERAP contract with vendor Guidehouse will be extended beyond its May expiration, with expectations that "the vast majority" of work will be completed by year-end 2023. Regarding SNAP benefits fraud, Tietz reported approximately $5 million in skimming losses and explained that new federal law—effective late December—permits states to replace stolen SNAP benefits equal to two months of benefits, twice yearly. New York plans to submit its replacement plan to the USDA by month's end. OCFS Acting Commissioner Miles-Gustave testified on child welfare and aging services initiatives, including consolidation of after-school programs and expansion of trafficking prevention through Safe Harbour laws and specialized residential programs. NYSOFA Acting Director Greg Olsen highlighted the state's status as the first age-friendly state and discussed the Master Plan for Aging, noting continued funding for Community Services for the Elderly, elder abuse prevention, and innovative programs including animatronic pets and AI-powered isolation-reduction tools. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 Executive Budget for human services drew scrutiny from lawmakers on February 13, with testimony revealing significant funding gaps in aging services and cautious optimism about new veterans' initiatives. The Division of Veterans' Services highlighted substantial federal funding achievements, with Director Viviana DeCohen reporting that the agency brought $900 million in tax-free federal dollars into New York in 2022, plus $400 million in educational benefits for 23,000 veterans. The budget includes $300,000 for Mobile Veterans Service Centers to reach isolated veterans and $1.1 million for a new Homeless Veterans' Housing Program. However, the aging services testimony exposed deeper structural problems. Assemblyman Ron Kim presented data showing that while New York's older population grew 31 percent from 2011 to 2021, the State Office for the Aging's budget grew only 25 percent—a 6 percent gap that has created waiting lists and service delays. Kim cited a conservative analysis suggesting that a $390 million additional investment in SOFA over the past decade would have saved the state $3.75 billion in Medicaid spending. Acting Director Olsen defended the administration's approach, noting that 99.5 percent of SOFA funding already goes to low-income seniors and that the agency is pursuing a private-pay option for higher-income seniors to free up resources for those in poverty. She acknowledged the Long Term Care Ombudsman Program is severely underfunded, receiving only $1.4 million federally to run a statewide program, though recent state investment allowed hiring 35 staff and increasing facility visits from 30 percent to 50-60 percent. Sen. Cordell Cleare, the new chair of the Aging Committee, pressed Olsen on inadequate cost-of-living adjustments for home care workers—2.5 percent in the proposed budget versus 5.4 percent the prior year—and demanded specific dollar figures for addressing service gaps. Sen. Scarcella-Spanton, the new Veterans chair, expressed concern about a reported 14 percent cut to the veterans budget and requested detailed breakdowns of how funding will serve specific populations and counties. The hearing underscored a recurring legislative frustration: agency officials defending budgets they acknowledge are insufficient, while lawmakers demand concrete numbers on how proposed investments will address documented shortfalls in services for vulnerable populations. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE — A joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 executive budget for human services revealed deep concerns about funding disparities and service gaps, particularly for veterans and seniors, as state officials defended proposed budgets that lawmakers characterized as inadequate. The Division of Veterans Services faces a $4.78 million budget cut—approximately 14 percent—even as it transitions to full department status. Director Reverend DeCohen testified that the division delivered $900 million in services to veterans despite the reduction, but Sen. Ashby challenged the adequacy of state support, noting a stark funding disparity: New York allocates $30 million for roughly 700,000 veterans, compared to New Jersey's $104 million for 300,000 veterans and Massachusetts' $97 million for 300,000 veterans. The Dwyer Peer-to-Peer suicide prevention program, which has been expanded to $7.7 million, remains underfunded relative to need, lawmakers said. Sen. Ashby pressed DeCohen on whether the program could receive permanent funding rather than annual appropriations, and whether the department would pursue additional federal grants. DeCohen acknowledged the need for continued partnership but did not commit to specific funding increases. The State Office for the Aging faced equally pointed criticism over the Long-Term Care Ombudsman Program, which currently covers only 60 percent of nursing homes despite a legal requirement for 100 percent coverage. Assemblywoman Forrest cited AARP data showing 96 percent of New York City nursing homes received no ombudsman visits. Director Greg Olsen acknowledged the program has been "traditionally underfunded" and that New York ranks 39th nationally in state investment. A proposed $2.5 million increase was deemed insufficient by multiple lawmakers. Home health aide retention emerged as a critical issue. Assemblyman Gallahan reported severe shortages in his district, with aides leaving for fast food jobs paying $2-3 more per hour. Olsen noted the state provided a $2 wage increase last year with another dollar coming in October 2023, but acknowledged the work remains difficult without guaranteed hours or travel pay. Sen. Persaud raised concerns about home health attendants working 24-hour shifts while being paid for only 13 hours, and reported constituents still waiting for home-delivered meals despite claims by Olsen that waitlists are not widespread. The Master Plan for Aging, required by law since September 2020, remains in development with a draft expected in spring 2023 and final report in 2024. Olsen said the state received $500,000 of a promised $1.5 million for the plan's development. Assemblyman Eachus requested $150,000 each for Boys State and Girls State programs run by the American Legion, which the state no longer funds. DeCohen, himself a Legionnaire, expressed support for restoring the appropriations. The hearing underscored tensions between the administration's budget proposals and legislative priorities, with multiple lawmakers signaling intent to increase funding during budget negotiations. New York State legislators heard urgent testimony on Wednesday about critical funding gaps in childcare, early childhood services, and nutrition assistance programs during a joint hearing on the 2023-2024 Executive Budget for human services. Childcare advocates painted a dire picture of a sector in crisis. The Early Care & Learning Council reported that childcare resource and referral agencies have received no contract increases since 2012 despite 29.7% inflation, while 64% of New York State remains a childcare desert. All Our Kin testified that the state has lost over 1,300 childcare programs and 10,000 childcare slots since the pandemic, with childcare educators earning in the bottom 3% of all wage earners. The organization called for a $1 billion childcare workforce compensation fund this year, arguing that the Executive Budget's $389 million in stabilization grants is insufficient. The Adirondack Birth to Three Alliance highlighted rural disparities, noting that 80% of Adirondack census tracts were childcare deserts before the pandemic and the region has since lost another 1,200 slots. The region's families earn $10,000 annually less than other New Yorkers, and 18.2% of children live in poverty. Hunger Solutions New York testified that SNAP provides benefits to 2.8 million New Yorkers but warned that the Executive Budget does not include the $1 million the Legislature added last year for outreach. Without restoration, services will be reduced in Erie and Monroe counties and all New York City boroughs, and eliminated entirely in seven rural counties. The organization noted that every state dollar invested in SNAP outreach generates a 27-fold return on investment. Docs for Tots reported that the Help Me Grow early childhood development model reached 10,000 children in 2022 across four communities but expressed disappointment that the Executive Budget merely reappropriated last year's $200,000 investment without allocating continued funding. Senators pressed agency officials on funding adequacy. Sen. Jabari Brisport questioned whether stabilization grants have actually reversed childcare slot losses and noted that $1 billion in stabilization grants was insufficient to save the sector two years ago. The hearing was held before the Finance Committee on February 13, 2023. New York State lawmakers heard urgent pleas for increased funding and wage support for human services workers during a joint Senate-Assembly Finance Committee hearing on the 2023-2024 Executive Budget, with advocates warning of service waiting lists, workforce shortages, and staff turnover that threatens vulnerable populations. Aging services advocates reported approximately 10,000 seniors waiting for essential services such as meal delivery and adult day care, with 7,713 unique customers waiting for case management. The Association on Aging in New York emphasized that 100 percent of Area Agencies on Aging reported waiting lists for personal care services due to a critical shortage of direct care professionals. MS. Preve of the Association testified that a significant state investment of about $4 billion in home care wages could yield $7 billion in return. Child welfare and youth services organizations painted a similarly dire picture. Northern Rivers Family of Services reported 105 current vacancies and over 1,000 people on waitlists for mental health services, with 25 percent of staff working second jobs and 10 percent working third jobs. The Council of Family and Child Caring Agencies warned that foster-care programs face a funding crisis, with no known rates as of April 1st, creating a six-week gap before the state fiscal year ends June 30th. YouthBuild programs reported exceptional outcomes, with 100 percent placement rates in jobs or post-secondary education and zero recidivism for youth with prior justice system involvement. The New York State Network for Youth Success requested $219 million to reorganize after-school programs, citing research showing every dollar invested saves at least $3. Domestic violence advocates reported that on a single day during the national count, more than 9,100 adult and child victims received services in New York—the highest in the nation. However, the New York State Coalition Against Domestic Violence testified that DV staff were excluded from last year's cost-of-living adjustments and are not included in this year's COLA proposal, despite being designated essential frontline workers during the pandemic. Senators pressed witnesses on workforce retention, with Sen. Murray highlighting a direct employment model in 12 counties that achieved 100 percent retention of home health aides and cleared Putnam County's waiting list for two years. Multiple advocates called for an 8.5 percent COLA and support for a proposal to increase prevention services funding to 75 percent of county budgets. The hearing, held February 13, underscored the tension between the Governor's proposed investments in mental health and childcare and the ongoing underfunding of the workforce that delivers these services. NEW YORK — Advocates for vulnerable populations testified before the state Legislature on Monday that the 2023-2024 Executive Budget fails to adequately fund critical human services, with particular concern about chronic underfunding of legacy programs and insufficient workforce support across multiple sectors. The joint Senate-Assembly hearing on the human services budget revealed a pattern of underfunding that advocates say is forcing service providers to cut staff and turn away clients. The most dramatic example came from testimony about domestic violence services, where 87 programs face $11.7 million in cuts despite increased demand and rising lethality of incidents during and after the pandemic. "We're not balancing it well. And victims are going to be the ones who bear the brunt of that," said Joan Gerhardt of the New York State Coalition Against Domestic Violence, describing vacant positions, layoffs, and pulled job postings across the network. The childcare workforce crisis dominated much of the testimony. Dede Hill of the Schuyler Center called the Governor's $389 million proposal "a good step, but it is not enough," arguing that $1 billion annually is needed to provide a $12,500 wage supplement per worker. "Providers simply cannot retain staff or recruit new staff with a small one-time bump in pay," Hill testified. Melinda Mack of the New York Association of Training and Employment highlighted broader workforce challenges, noting that 2 million jobs in the state's top 10 occupational groups pay less than a living wage and 36 percent of New Yorkers have a high school diploma or less. She criticized the Governor's budget for providing zero dollars to the Office of Strategic Workforce Development at Empire State Development. Supportive housing advocates highlighted a stark disparity between legacy and newer programs. Steve Piasecki of the Supportive Housing Network of New York noted that the New York State Supportive Housing Program funds approximately 20,000 units statewide at $2,400 to $3,500 per unit annually, compared to $25,000 per unit for the newer ESSHI program. He estimated $150 million would be needed to address the disparity. Emilia Sicilia of the Empire Justice Center pointed to shelter allowances that have not been updated since 1988 for households without children—despite rents tripling in 35 years—and since 2003 for households with children despite rents doubling. She also advocated for restoring $3 million in funding for the Disability Advocacy Program, which she said generates at least $2 in benefits to the state for every dollar invested. MJ Okma of SAGE testified that the state is unprepared for the aging of its HIV-positive population, with 72 percent of New Yorkers living with HIV projected to be over age 50 by 2030. He requested $860,000 in funding for various SAGE programs serving LGBTQ+ and HIV-affected older adults. Senators expressed frustration with the budget's priorities. Sen. Krueger challenged the logic of continuing to underfund legacy programs, saying the state is "playing a game of chicken" with service providers. Sen. Rolison, a retired police officer, criticized the focus on public safety without corresponding investment in crime victim services, saying the state is moving backward on issues addressed in the 1980s and 1990s. The hearing underscored a broader tension in the budget: while the Governor proposed new initiatives and some expansions, advocates argued that chronic underfunding of existing programs and workforce support threatens the viability of the entire human services infrastructure. NEW YORK — Advocates for veteran services testified before the Joint Legislative Committee on Finance on Feb. 13 that while the state's 2023-2024 Executive Budget represents progress in funding the Dwyer peer-to-peer reintegration program, the increases fall short of meeting growing demand across New York's 60 participating counties. Kirby Hannan and Gavin Walters, representing veteran service organizations, praised the expansion of the Dwyer program from 4 counties a decade ago to 60 counties today, and noted that a $7.7 million budget increase enabled every county to establish a program. However, Walters testified that the funding "should be more, absolutely," noting that his Ulster County program operates with only one full-time employee and relies on fundraising to cover emergency hotel costs for veterans in crisis. The testifiers highlighted a critical gap: women veterans, currently 17 percent of the veteran population and projected to reach 25 percent, are being underserved because peer-to-peer mentoring traditionally occurs at veteran posts rather than through accessible community channels. Walters emphasized that peer mentors have evolved into de facto case managers, fielding crisis calls at 2 a.m. and providing advocacy services far beyond the program's original scope. Assemblyman Ra raised concerns about a separate $5 million grant program for veterans service organizations, noting that applicant numbers have been "very low." Hannan criticized the Department of Veteran Services for treating the grants as a procurement program rather than a grant program, making the application process "incredibly counterintuitive" and deterring local organizations from applying. Senators Ashby and Scarcella-Spanton signaled support for making the Dwyer program a permanent budget line item, with Ashby noting that the recent elevation of the Division of Veteran Services to agency status creates an opportunity to move beyond annual appropriations. Sen. O'Mara expressed concern that the state's overall attention to veteran services remains "woeful," while praising the testifiers' work. The hearing concluded with requests from testifiers to submit additional written materials to the committee chairs for distribution to all members.

Topic Summary

Joint legislative hearing on Governor Hochul's proposed 2023-2024 budget for human services, including childcare assistance, temporary and disability assistance, aging services, and veterans' services. Testimony focused on childcare sector stability, emergency rental assistance, asylum seeker support, and workforce challenges in human services.

Testimony (54)

Suzanne Miles-Gustave agency_official informational
Acting Commissioner, New York State Office of Children and Family Services
Miles-Gustave presented OCFS's budget priorities, emphasizing unprecedented childcare investments of $7.6 billion over four years, increased income eligibility limits to 85% of state median income, and $389 million for a third round of stabilization grants for childcare providers. She highlighted streamlined application processes, market rate increases to the 80th percentile, and investments in foster care, adoption services, and workforce support.
Acting Commissioner Miles-Gustave agency_official informational
Office of Children and Family Services (OCFS)
Miles-Gustave presented the Governor's childcare budget proposals, including expansion of eligibility to 85% of State Median Income (SMI), which would make an additional 113,000 children eligible. She acknowledged gaps between true cost of care and reimbursement rates, discussed the 80th percentile rate increase of 33% on average, and explained federal restrictions on using CCDF funds for undocumented children. She also addressed the elimination of NYC's childcare waitlist and discussed implementation challenges including provider supply and workforce availability.
Acting Commissioner Sheila Miles-Gustave agency_official informational
Office of Children and Family Services (OCFS)
Commissioner Miles-Gustave provided updates on Raise the Age implementation, noting that pandemic delays halted detention bed expansion plans. She reported that seven counties operate detention facilities and all have capital expansion plans expected to yield 150 additional secure beds within two to three years. She also addressed staffing challenges, noting some counties have unfilled beds due to workforce shortages, and discussed efforts to address the IMD (Institutions of Mental Disease) issue affecting voluntary foster care agencies.
OTDA Commissioner Tietz agency_official informational
New York State Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance
Commissioner Tietz provided detailed testimony on the Executive Budget's human services proposals, including the $1 billion migrant services allocation (primarily for NYC), ERAP program status with $2.82 billion distributed, SNAP benefits fraud replacement procedures, and staffing challenges at HRA. He emphasized that the vast majority of migrant funding is new money and discussed the National Guard's role in shelter operations.
Viviana DeCohen agency_official supportive
New York State Division of Veterans' Services, Director
Director DeCohen testified on behalf of Governor Hochul's budget for veterans' services, highlighting the agency's transition from division to department status. She emphasized federal funding brought into the state, new peer-to-peer support programs, food security initiatives, and proposed mobile veterans service centers. She detailed investments in homeless veterans housing and cultural competency training for housing providers.
Reverend DeCohen agency_official supportive
Director, Division of Veterans Services (soon to be Department)
Rev. DeCohen testified about the division's transition to department status and highlighted accomplishments despite budget constraints. He emphasized partnerships with veteran service organizations, suicide prevention programs, and support for incarcerated veterans. He expressed support for the Boys State and Girls State programs and discussed mobile response units and homeless veteran initiatives.
NYSOFA Acting Director Olsen agency_official informational
New York State Office for the Aging (NYSOFA)
Director Olsen explained the NORC (Naturally Occurring Retirement Community) service model, describing how services are provided through community-based organizations and not-for-profits rather than direct state administration. She discussed the evolution of the program since 1995 and how it leverages existing community infrastructure for service delivery.
Meredith Chimento advocate opposed
Empire State Campaign for Childcare
Chimento warned of imminent collapse of the childcare system without increased wage investments. She advocated for a $12,500 annual bonus or incentive for childcare providers and emphasized the need for funding not just wages but also operations and infrastructure. She discussed the CCR&R network's seven-part core business training series and the importance of supporting childcare provider education and business development.
Assemblywoman Rajkumar elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblywoman Rajkumar asked questions about waiting lists for senior services and data matching programs to connect benefit recipients to additional assistance. She inquired about the Association on Aging's findings regarding seniors waiting for services and whether similar data matching could be applied to seniors as proposed for families with children.
Emilia Sicilia advocate supportive
Empire Justice Center, Managing Attorney
Sicilia testified on behalf of Empire Justice Center regarding public benefits, disability advocacy, and rental assistance. She emphasized the need to increase basic needs grants, address public benefits skimming, expand rental supplement programs, and increase shelter allowances that have not been updated since 1988-2003. She highlighted the Disability Advocacy Program (DAP), marking its 40th anniversary, which provides civil legal assistance to low-income disabled New Yorkers denied federal disability benefits.
Kirby Hannan advocate supportive
Veteran services advocate/representative
Hannan praised the expansion of the Dwyer program from 30 to 60 counties and emphasized the importance of peer-to-peer mentoring delivered through veteran service officers rather than brick-and-mortar facilities. He discussed funding for veteran service officers (increased to $25,000 state share), Veterans Treatment Court monitors, and the Veterans Defense Program. He highlighted that women veterans (17% of veteran population, projected to rise to 25%) are being left behind by current peer-to-peer programs.
Daniel W. Tietz agency_official informational
Commissioner, New York State Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance
Tietz presented OTDA's budget priorities, highlighting $1 billion in funding to help New York City provide shelter and services to asylum seekers, continuation of the $25 billion five-year housing plan to create or preserve 100,000 affordable units, and new Youth Opportunities Program providing year-round employment to 2,500 youth. He also discussed Emergency Rental Assistance Program results, public assistance policy changes, and EBT card fraud reimbursement provisions.
OTDA Commissioner Tietz agency_official informational
Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA)
Commissioner Tietz discussed OTDA's response to stolen public benefits, SNAP/EBT fraud prevention measures, ERAP implementation challenges, TANF reimbursement disparities, and migrant services funding. He outlined plans to allow replacement of stolen benefits up to two months twice yearly pending USDA approval, discussed vendor negotiations for chip-enabled cards (noting no state currently has them), and explained the $1 billion migrant services allocation breakdown. He acknowledged that subsidized housing applications (73,000) are deprioritized under current ERAP rules and that NYC receives only 85% TANF reimbursement.
Commissioner Dan Tietz agency_official informational
Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA)
Commissioner Tietz discussed the budget's approach to child poverty, highlighting minimum wage increases tied to inflation and housing proposals including an 800,000-unit housing compact. He addressed the fiscal cliff problem in public assistance, noting that the Child Poverty Reduction Advisory Council will make recommendations in early March. On migrant services, he explained that approximately 900 National Guard troops are providing program-related support (not security) for sheltering and services in New York City, and that the budget covers approximately 29 percent of the city's estimated migrant services costs.
OCFS Acting Commissioner Miles-Gustave agency_official informational
New York State Office of Children and Family Services
Acting Commissioner Miles-Gustave testified on OCFS budget proposals including after-school program consolidation, Committee on Special Education state share for residential programs, child trafficking prevention through Safe Harbour laws and QRTP exceptions, and childcare standardization efforts. She addressed questions about service provider capacity and trafficking victim support.
Acting Director Olsen agency_official supportive
New York State Office for the Aging (NYSOFA)
Acting Director Olsen testified on the Executive Budget for aging services, defending the proposed private-pay system for higher-income seniors and discussing funding challenges. She highlighted partnerships with other agencies, the need for federal funding increases, and efforts to address food insecurity and housing for older adults. She discussed the Long Term Care Ombudsman Program's limitations and the need for professional staffing.
Director Greg Olsen agency_official informational
Acting Director, New York State Office for the Aging (NYSOFA)
Director Olsen provided testimony on aging services, including the Master Plan for Aging development, Long-Term Care Ombudsman Program expansion, and home health aide challenges. He discussed NORC programs, nutrition services, and federal stimulus funding. He acknowledged underfunding of the ombudsman program and discussed efforts to improve coverage and professionalize the workforce.
DVS Director Rev. DeCohen agency_official informational
Department of Veterans Services (DVS)
Director DeCohen reported on veterans capital grants and the Outdoor Rx program. He stated that 12 applications are currently in process for the $5 million capital grants program, with ongoing outreach through multiple platforms. He highlighted the Outdoor Rx program with six recipients receiving $25,000 each for extensive programs on natural lands.
Mr. Morales advocate opposed
Not specified (appears to be childcare advocacy organization)
Morales cited a December survey by the National Association for the Education of Young Children showing that 33 percent of family childcare providers worried about closing within the next year. He discussed how families without childcare access due to immigration status barriers resort to informal care arrangements or leave the workforce entirely.
MS. Preve advocate supportive
Association on Aging in New York
Preve testified about waiting lists for senior services, noting approximately 10,000 people waiting for services statewide, with 7,713 unique customers waiting for case management. She emphasized the home care workforce crisis, noting 100 percent of Area Agencies on Aging reported waiting lists for personal care services due to lack of direct care professionals. She advocated for Fair Pay for Home Care to raise wages to livable levels.
Dede Hill advocate supportive
Schuyler Center, Policy Director
Hill testified on behalf of Schuyler Center regarding childcare, foster care, and workforce issues. She welcomed Executive Budget proposals to expand childcare assistance and cut copays but argued the Governor's $389 million proposal is insufficient. She called for $1 billion in annual investment to provide a $12,500 wage supplement per childcare worker and criticized the exclusion of children based on immigration status from childcare assistance.
Gavin Walters advocate supportive
Hudson Valley National Center for Veteran Reintegration
Walters testified about the Dwyer program's operations in Ulster County, emphasizing that the program has not received a funding increase since its enactment 10 years ago despite expanded service delivery. He described peer-to-peer mentors taking on case management and advocacy roles beyond office hours, including crisis intervention. He stated that the 7.7 million budget increase was significant but insufficient to cover actual program needs, and that current staffing is inadequate with only one full-time employee in Ulster County.
Greg Olsen agency_official supportive
New York State Office for the Aging (NYSOFA), Acting Director
Acting Director Olsen testified on NYSOFA's role in the Executive Budget, highlighting the Master Plan for Aging initiative and various aging-focused programs. He discussed funding for Community Services for the Elderly, elder abuse prevention, digital divide initiatives, caregiver support, and innovative programs like animatronic pets, GetSetUp platform, and Elli-Q AI tool. He emphasized New York's status as the first age-friendly state.
Meredith Chimento advocate opposed
Early Care & Learning Council (ECLC)
Ms. Chimento testified on behalf of the network of 35 childcare resource and referral agencies (CCR&Rs). She detailed how CCR&R state contracts have been flat-funded since 2012 despite 29.7% inflation. She requested $7.9 million annually to increase childcare resource and referral contracts, $6.5 million for Stabilization and Deserts Grant technical assistance, $4 million for infant/toddler mental health consultation, and $5.5 million for DEIB training.
Krista Hesdorfer advocate supportive
Not specified (appears to be nutrition/SNAP advocacy organization)
Hesdorfer testified in support of universal school meals and the Nutrition Outreach and Education Program (NOEP). She cited $140 per child per month in grocery savings from universal school meals and highlighted the 27-fold return on investment for NOEP. She noted an estimated 200,000 seniors eligible for SNAP but not participating in New York State.
MS. Finkel advocate supportive
Not specified in transcript
Finkel testified in support of data matching programs for seniors, citing that 300,000 New Yorkers 65-plus are newly eligible for Medicare Savings Program and 200,000 older New Yorkers are eligible for SNAP but not receiving it. She expressed frustration that data matching was proposed only for families with children and not seniors.
MJ Okma advocate supportive
SAGE, representing LGBTQ+ and HIV-affected older adults
Okma testified on behalf of SAGE, which serves LGBTQ+ and HIV-affected older New Yorkers. He requested restoration of funding for four programs: $300,000 for LGBTQ+-welcoming elder housing developments, $150,000 for multilingual programming, $260,000 to restore SAGEVets to fiscal year 2022 levels, and $150,000 for new SAGEPositive program expansion for HIV-affected older adults.
Steven Morales advocate opposed
All Our Kin
Mr. Morales testified on behalf of All Our Kin, which trains and supports family childcare educators. He emphasized that childcare educators are in the bottom 3% of earners and called for a $1 billion childcare workforce compensation fund this year, long-term commitment to pay educators based on actual cost of care, and $60 million for childcare access for undocumented children. He noted a net loss of over 1,300 childcare programs since the pandemic.
Gail Myers advocate opposed
New York StateWide Senior Action Council
Myers testified on behalf of the StateWide Senior Action Council regarding aging services funding. She requested restoration of $200,000 in funding for the patients rights hotline and advocacy projects (total proposed funding $31,500). She opposed the proposed expansion of private-pay programs that would increase income eligibility thresholds and expressed concerns about home care worker shortages and the Governor's wage cap proposal.
MS. Myers advocate supportive
Not specified in transcript
Myers supported data matching for seniors and discussed the connection between case management capacity and service delivery, noting that people wait for assessments and case management before services can begin.
Steve Piasecki advocate mixed
Supportive Housing Network of New York
Piasecki praised funding for the ESSHI program (7,400+ units fully funded) and the Affordable Housing Fund but focused on underfunding of legacy programs, particularly the New York State Supportive Housing Program (NYSSHP), which funds approximately 20,000 units statewide. He noted NYSSHP programs receive $2,400-$3,500 per unit annually compared to $25,000 for ESSHI and requested approximately $150 million to address the disparity.
Krista Hesdorfer advocate opposed
Hunger Solutions New York
Ms. Hesdorfer testified on behalf of Hunger Solutions New York regarding SNAP and nutrition assistance programs. She reported that SNAP provides benefits to 2.8 million New Yorkers and requested $5.22 million for the Nutrition Outreach and Education Program (NOEP) to sustain and expand services. She noted that the Executive Budget did not include the $1 million the Legislature added last year.
Becky Preve advocate opposed
Association on Aging in New York
Preve testified on behalf of 59 Offices for the Aging, emphasizing the rapidly growing population of 4.6 million New Yorkers over age 60. She criticized the proposed budget for lacking significant investments in aging services despite the Master Plan on Aging. She highlighted the cost-effectiveness of aging services ($10,000 per year vs. $150,000 in nursing homes) and noted unfunded mandates for home care wage increases.
Senator Murray elected_official neutral
New York State Senate
Sen. Murray asked detailed questions about home care worker training requirements, retention issues, and potential innovative solutions like longevity bonuses or retirement credits. He highlighted the quality-of-care problems caused by high turnover and discussed a model in 12 counties with direct employment of aides showing 100 percent retention.
Melinda Mack advocate supportive
New York Association of Training and Employment (NYATEP), Executive Director
Mack testified on workforce development challenges, noting that labor force participation has declined for over a decade due to retirements, low birth rates, and educational attainment challenges. She highlighted that 2 million jobs in the top 10 occupational groups pay less than a living wage and that 36 percent of New York's population has a high school diploma or less. She criticized the Governor's budget for providing zero dollars to the Office of Strategic Workforce Development at Empire State Development.
Kate Ryan advocate supportive
Adirondack Birth to Three Alliance
Ms. Ryan testified on behalf of the Adirondack Birth to Three Alliance regarding early childhood services in the Adirondack region. She described unique challenges of rural service delivery and requested support for CCR&R funding ($7.9 million), QUALITYstarsNY investment ($20 million), infant/toddler mental health consultation ($4 million), and Help Me Grow expansion ($500,000 to $2 million).
Kimberly George advocate supportive
Project Guardianship
George testified about the need for guardianship services for New Yorkers with limited capacity due to disabilities, mental illness, dementia, and other conditions. She noted that guardianship is underfunded with no direct funding stream, and that demand greatly outpaces capacity, particularly in low-income regions. Project Guardianship and the Guardianship Access New York coalition requested $15 million to serve 1,500 people annually.
Senator Persaud elected_official neutral
New York State Senate
Sen. Persaud asked for clarification on waiting lists for home-delivered meals after Director Olsen stated he was not hearing about such lists. Preve confirmed 362 people waiting in New York State for home-delivered meals and discussed geographic variations and cost pressures.
Joan Gerhardt advocate opposed
New York State Coalition Against Domestic Violence
Gerhardt testified about devastating funding cuts to 87 domestic violence service programs totaling $11.7 million. She reported that programs have experienced vacant positions, layoffs, and pulled job postings. Legal service organizations within the network report inability to take on new clients due to ethical obligations to follow cases through completion. She noted increased demand and increased lethality of incidents during and after the pandemic.
Liz Isakson advocate opposed
Docs for Tots
Ms. Isakson testified on behalf of Docs for Tots regarding the Help Me Grow model for early childhood development. She described Help Me Grow as a national evidence-based model operating in four New York communities across 17 counties involving over 100 community-based organizations. She reported reaching 10,000 children in 2022 and requested $500,000 to maintain current communities and add one or two new ones, with ideal funding of $2 million.
Ms. Finkel advocate supportive
AARP New York
Finkel testified on behalf of AARP regarding aging demographics and budget priorities. She noted that 65-plus is the fastest growing age group, with more people 65-plus than 15-and-under in New York State. She advocated for stable home care funding, fair pay for home care workers, and $15 million for the Long-Term Care Ombudsman Program (LTCOP). She highlighted $4.4 billion in unclaimed federal funds for SNAP, Medicare Savings Program, and HEAP benefits.
Trudy Morgan advocate supportive
New York State Network for Youth Success
Morgan testified about the value of after-school and expanded learning programs, citing research showing every dollar invested saves at least $3. She requested $219 million investment to reorganize after-school programs, including higher per-student rates of $4,300, restoration of Advantage funding by $5 million, and $500,000 for technical assistance.
Gavin Walters advocate supportive
Hudson Valley National Center for Veteran Reintegration, Facilitator of New York State Dwyer Coalition
Walters testified on behalf of the PFC Joseph Dwyer Veteran Peer Support Program, which was expanded to every county in New York State in 2022. He described the program's services including peer support, housing assistance, food insecurity support, and recreational activities. He noted that the Dwyer program has never received a funding increase since its enactment in 2012 and requested increased funding to address inflation and expanded service demands.
MS. Landi advocate supportive
New York State YouthBuild Coalition
Landi testified about YouthBuild program outcomes and requested continued funding at 2022-23 levels ($10 million ESD Pay for Performance and $2.5 million for wraparound services). She cited exceptional outcomes from an OCFS Workforce Development Demonstration Project and noted YouthBuild's role in addressing community gun violence.
Bill Gettman agency_official supportive
Northern Rivers Family of Services
Gettman testified on behalf of Northern Rivers, which serves 18,000 children, adults, and families across 40 counties with 1,400 employees. He advocated for an 8.5 percent COLA, noting 25 percent of staff have second jobs and 10 percent have third jobs. He reported 105 current vacancies and over 1,000 on waitlist for mental health services.
Timothy Hathaway advocate supportive
Prevent Child Abuse New York
Hathaway testified about prevention-focused approaches to child abuse, advocating for the Child and Family Well-Being Fund, maternal and infant home visiting programs, and restoration of $200,000 each for ParentChild+ and Help Me Grow. He emphasized prevention as cost-effective and supported after-school programs, the 75/25 prevention funding split, and right-to-counsel housing legislation.
Kathleen Brady-Stepien advocate opposed
Council of Family and Child Caring Agencies (COFCCA)
Brady-Stepien testified that foster-care programs face a funding crisis with no known rates as of April 1st. She requested full funding through June 30th to avoid midyear rate reductions and advocated for 8.5 percent COLA, inclusion of prevention services in COLA, and support for the 75 percent prevention funding proposal. She also expressed concern about the state's Medicaid waiver submission for residential foster care.
Nicole Bryl agency_official supportive
Children's Health Home of Upstate New York (CHHUNY)
Bryl testified that CHHUNY is the largest upstate health home serving children under 21, with over 13,500 members monthly and almost 18,000 unique members annually across 55 counties through 90+ care management agencies. She requested explicit identification of Children's Health Home as eligible for human services COLA at 8.5 percent (CPI) instead of 2.5 percent, noting the program has received only 1 percent rate increase over six years and was excluded from last year's 5.4 percent COLA.
Assemblyman Maher elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Maher thanked all panelists for their testimony and indicated he would reach out to them individually but had no specific questions at that time.
Senator Jabari Brisport elected_official supportive
New York State Senate
Sen. Brisport asked how the programs discussed could contribute to public safety beyond traditional criminal justice approaches. He received responses from multiple panelists about prevention, workforce investment, and community safety through youth employment and after-school programs.
Assemblyman Ra elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Ra asked technical questions about the budget gap between April 1st and June 30th when providers do not know their rates, and discussed the need for both gap funding and forward-looking COLA to ensure sustained wage increases rather than one-time bonuses.
Senator Cordell Cleare elected_official supportive
New York State Senate
Sen. Cleare thanked all panelists and expressed strong support for YouthBuild, noting it started in his district (East Harlem) and praising its role in providing skills and employment opportunities for young people.
Assemblyman Eachus elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Eachus, who had 13 foster siblings, expressed support for the programs and invited panelists to visit his office to discuss expansion of services in upstate New York, particularly in Newburgh, which he noted is the second most violent city in the state.
Joan Gerhardt advocate opposed
New York State Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NYSCADV)
Gerhardt testified that domestic violence advocates are underpaid and excluded from COLA proposals despite being designated essential frontline workers during the pandemic. She cited that on one day during the national count, more than 9,100 adult and child victims received services in New York. She requested wage increases and COLA for DV staff and restoration of $14.4 million transfer to OVS and $11.7 million for 87 providers who received cuts.

Senator Engagement (47)

Senator Engagement Stance Focus Areas Summary
Assemblyman Eachus supportive Brick-and-mortar facility funding for veteran posts Reimbursement mechanisms for infrastructure improvements Relationship between Dwyer program and county service officers OMH coordination with Dwyer programs Assemblyman Eachus raised concerns about facility funding barriers for veteran posts and sought clarification on reimbursement mechanisms. He emphasized the importance of professional mental health support coordination with Dwyer programs.
Assemblyman Ra skeptical Growth and effectiveness of Dwyer program in new counties Ongoing funding needs $5 million grant program for veterans service organizations Low applicant numbers for grant program DVS treating grants as procurement rather than grants Assemblyman Ra praised the program's growth but raised concerns about low applicant numbers for the $5 million grant program, questioning whether local veterans organizations are aware of the opportunity and criticizing DVS for treating it as a procurement program with counterintuitive application processes.
Sen. Ashby neutral Family-type adult homes Hospice waiver policy gaps Aging in place Sen. Ashby raised a specific constituent concern about gaps in hospice care for elderly residents of family-type adult homes, noting the request has been pending for over a year and expressing urgency about people suffering from the policy gap.
Sen. Ashby skeptical Federal funding opportunities for new department Dwyer program permanent funding Comparative funding analysis with other states Suicide prevention programs Sen. Ashby expressed skepticism about the adequacy of the Governor's support for the newly elevated veterans department, noting the lack of funding and effort. He pressed Director DeCohen on specific programs and federal dollars, and criticized the modest increase in Dwyer funding as insufficient, comparing New York's $30 million in veterans funding unfavorably to New Jersey's $104 million and Massachusetts' $97 million.
Sen. Ashby supportive Growth of Dwyer program participation Adequacy of budget increase relative to program growth Opportunity to make Dwyer a permanent budget line item Elevation of DVS to agency status Sen. Ashby expressed strong support for expanding Dwyer funding and suggested the elevation of DVS to agency status creates an opportunity to make the program permanent in the budget rather than relying on annual appropriations.
Sen. Brisport skeptical Childcare provider reimbursement rates Gap between true cost of care and state reimbursement Living wages for childcare workforce Eligibility for undocumented children Childcare waitlists and case opening procedures Sen. Brisport pressed Commissioner Miles-Gustave on the disparity between true cost of care and reimbursement rates, questioned whether market rate surveys account for living wages, and challenged the exclusion of undocumented children from state-funded childcare. He appeared skeptical of the adequacy of current proposals and pushed for more aggressive action on provider compensation and immigrant access.
Sen. Brisport skeptical Childcare subsidy uptake rates Tying childcare to employment Childcare provider waitlists Child welfare funding reimbursement rates Sen. Brisport challenged the commissioner on childcare uptake rates (66,000 of 100,000 eligible families), questioned whether provider waitlists exist despite agency claims, and pressed on why the state reimburses counties at 62 percent instead of the statutorily required 65 percent for child welfare.
Sen. Brisport skeptical Childcare waiting lists Cost of care reimbursement gap Stabilization grant effectiveness in Adirondacks Sen. Brisport asked probing questions about waiting lists, the impact of reimbursement gaps on providers, and whether stabilization grants have slowed childcare slot losses. His questions suggested skepticism about whether current funding levels are sufficient.
Sen. Brisport supportive Public safety and prevention Community violence reduction Workforce investment as safety strategy Sen. Brisport asked how human services investments contribute to public safety beyond traditional criminal justice, framing prevention and youth employment as safety strategies. His questions signaled support for the programs discussed.
Sen. Brisport supportive LGBTQ+ senior services and unmet need Workforce stabilization funding and one-time federal funds Sen. Brisport expressed gratitude for SAGE's work in his district and asked about unmet need for LGBTQ+ seniors statewide. He questioned whether providers have used one-time stabilization funds to create long-term wage increases, signaling concern about sustainability of workforce support.
Sen. Brouk supportive Childcare workforce compensation Childcare system collapse timeline Children excluded from childcare due to immigration status Sen. Brouk expressed strong support for childcare providers and asked pointed questions about the timeline for system collapse and the number of children excluded due to immigration status. She acknowledged the critical work of childcare providers in advocating for vulnerable populations.
Sen. Cleare skeptical GIVE initiative youth employment program exclusion of NYC SNAP/EBT benefit reimbursement timeline AIDS housing services outside NYC Sen. Cleare, in his first hearing, questioned why NYC is excluded from the new GIVE youth employment initiative and sought clarification on the timeline for SNAP benefit reimbursement verification. He also raised concerns about AIDS housing services availability outside NYC, signaling concern about geographic equity.
Sen. Cleare skeptical Home care worker wages and COLA increases Long Term Care Ombudsman Program staffing and funding Master Plan for Aging Unmet needs and waiting lists Senior housing Sen. Cleare, the new chair of the Aging Committee, engaged extensively with Acting Director Olsen, pressing on inadequate COLA increases for home care workers (2.5% vs. 5.4% prior year), the underfunding of the LTCOP program, and the need for specific dollar amounts to address service gaps. He signaled concern that current funding levels are insufficient.
Sen. Cleare supportive Pandemic funding continuation Senior center capital needs and facility improvements Mobile units for veterans Sen. Cleare asked about pandemic-related federal stimulus dollars and their continuation in the budget. He advocated for capital funding for deteriorating senior centers in his district and expressed interest in veterans mobile units.
Sen. Cleare supportive Fair Pay for Home Care Home care worker shortage crisis Private-pay program concerns Home care reimbursement rates Sen. Cleare expressed strong support for Fair Pay for Home Care and asked about the crisis severity and impacts on members. He requested clarification on private-pay program concerns and asked about county-level funding for mandated wage increases.
Sen. Cleare supportive YouthBuild programs After-school programs Sen. Cleare expressed strong support for YouthBuild, noting its origins in his district (East Harlem) and its value in providing skills and employment for young people.
Sen. Cleare supportive SAGE funding requests and multilingual services Disability Advocacy Program (DAP) details and funding needs Sen. Cleare expressed appreciation for SAGE's work in his district and asked clarifying questions about specific funding amounts and the DAP program's mission, indicating support for both initiatives.
Sen. Cleare neutral Availability of veteran post registries Posts in specific districts Identifying service gaps in districts Sen. Cleare asked practical questions about accessing lists of veteran posts in his district to identify service gaps and needs.
Sen. Gounardes skeptical Child poverty reduction Child tax credits Shelter allowance increases Budget proposals to address poverty Sen. Gounardes pressed both commissioners on what the budget actually does to address child poverty, noting New York's high child poverty rate and the statutory requirement to halve it. He questioned why more substantial investments in child tax credits were not included and asked about shelter allowance increases by local districts.
Sen. Jabari Brisport skeptical Childcare sector stability and workforce crisis Long-term decline in childcare slots Effectiveness of stabilization grants Childcare provider exodus Sen. Brisport pressed Acting Commissioner Miles-Gustave on the continued instability of the childcare sector despite multiple rounds of stabilization grants. He cited data showing 20,000 childcare slots lost since 2020 and questioned whether one-time federal funding infusions would actually stabilize the sector long-term.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Migrant services funding breakdown NYC shelter and services reimbursement rates Medicaid and safety net costs attribution National Guard costs and retroactivity Homeless shelter system capacity and provider shortages Distinction between new and existing budget dollars Sen. Krueger engaged in extensive, pointed questioning of Commissioner Tietz regarding the $1 billion migrant services allocation, challenging whether funds were truly new money versus relabeled existing expenditures. She expressed deep concern about NYC's capacity to absorb migrant populations and the strain on existing homeless services, warning of potential system collapse.
Sen. Krueger neutral Committee chair duties Directing testimony flow Sen. Krueger served as co-chair of the hearing and managed the flow of testimony and questions from the Senate side, introducing new committee chairs and maintaining procedural order.
Sen. Krueger supportive Childcare waiting lists and access Cost of care vs. reimbursement gap Impact of stabilization grants on childcare slot losses Sen. Brisport (speaking for Senate) asked detailed questions about childcare waiting lists, the gap between cost of care and reimbursement rates, and whether stabilization grants have reversed childcare slot losses in rural areas. Questions signaled concern about adequacy of current funding levels.
Sen. Krueger neutral Chairing the hearing Managing testimony flow Recognizing speakers Sen. Krueger served as co-chair of the joint hearing, managing the flow of testimony and recognizing speakers throughout the proceeding.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Supportive housing funding disparities between legacy and newer programs Shelter allowance inadequacy and eviction prevention Domestic violence and sex trafficking services Sen. Krueger engaged extensively with testifiers, expressing frustration with the state's practice of underfunding legacy programs while newer contracts receive significantly more. She challenged the logic of continuing to fund programs at inadequate levels and asked for data on eviction prevention potential of shelter allowance increases. She also inquired about sex trafficking victim services.
Sen. Liz Krueger neutral Hearing procedures and logistics Introduction of colleagues As chair of the Senate Finance Committee, Sen. Krueger managed hearing procedures, introduced colleagues, and made technical adjustments to microphone issues during testimony.
Sen. May supportive NORC program expansion to upstate cities Long-Term Care Ombudsman coverage targets Rural and suburban community needs Sen. May asked about NORC program modernization and expansion to serve upstate cities, noting budget-neutral opportunities. She emphasized that ombudsman coverage should reach 100 percent by law, not the current 60 percent target, and advocated for increased funding to meet statutory requirements.
Sen. Murray supportive Childcare crisis (access, provider availability, workforce) Public-private partnerships with businesses Business community engagement (NFIB, Business Council, MACNY) Streamlining application processes for families and providers Funding sustainability and rollover funds Sen. Murray expressed strong support for the Governor's childcare initiatives and focused on creative solutions involving business partnerships. He praised the administration's approach and offered specific suggestions for engaging business groups to create incentives. He appeared optimistic about the budget proposals while seeking clarification on funding sustainability.
Sen. Murray supportive Home care worker training and retention Innovative compensation models Direct employment models for home care Sen. Murray asked detailed, substantive questions about home care workforce challenges, training requirements, and retention issues. He explored creative solutions like longevity bonuses and highlighted successful direct employment models in 12 counties.
Sen. Murray supportive Benefits cliff and income disregard policy Workforce training and BOCES/CTE programs Childcare as barrier to workforce participation Sen. Murray sought clarification on the benefits cliff and six-month income disregard proposal, asked about workforce training investments, and explored childcare as a major barrier to workforce participation. Questions suggest support for workforce development initiatives.
Sen. O'Mara neutral Sen. O'Mara was noted as present but did not ask questions during the portions of testimony captured in the transcript.
Sen. O'Mara skeptical Changes to ADL requirements for home care eligibility Cost implications of ADL changes Prevention vs. institutional care Sen. O'Mara asked about justification for changes to ADL requirements for home care, expressing concern that the changes would cost more money and undermine prevention-focused approaches.
Sen. O'Mara supportive Progress on PTSD treatment Mental health and addiction issues among veterans Reintegration challenges for young versus older veterans Sen. O'Mara expressed concern about the state's attention to veteran services being 'woeful' while praising the testifiers' work. He focused on PTSD treatment and reintegration, particularly for young veterans who are reluctant to seek help.
Sen. Persaud supportive but critical COLA (Cost of Living Adjustment) equity across human services programs Stolen public benefits and EBT card fraud Chip-enabled card technology Supportive housing reimbursement rate disparities ERAP implementation and NYCHA tenant access TANF reimbursement disparity for NYC Migrant services funding allocation Sen. Persaud engaged extensively with both commissioners, expressing appreciation for their work while raising substantive concerns about equity issues. She questioned why COLA increases don't apply uniformly across human services programs, pressed for details on EBT fraud solutions, and challenged the long-standing 85% TANF reimbursement rate for NYC. She appeared supportive of the migrant services investment but sought detailed accounting.
Sen. Persaud skeptical Migrant services funding allocation National Guard role in migrant services Federal hot meals program status Minimum wage and COLA increases Worker dependency on social services Sen. Persaud asked pointed questions about how migrant services funding is allocated, the timeline for federal program approvals, and whether minimum wage increases adequately address worker poverty. He expressed concern that critical workers remain dependent on social services despite wage increases.
Sen. Persaud supportive Home health attendant compensation and 24-hour work rules Home-delivered meals waitlists SNAP and Medicare Savings Program outreach Sen. Persaud raised concerns about home health attendant compensation, noting workers are paid for only 13 hours of 24-hour shifts. She inquired about home-delivered meal waitlists and advocated for increased outreach on SNAP and Medicare Savings Program benefits to seniors.
Sen. Persaud skeptical Waiting lists for home-delivered meals Discrepancies in agency reporting Geographic variations in service delivery Sen. Persaud challenged testimony from Director Olsen by asking for clarification on waiting lists, noting a discrepancy between what Olsen said and what aging advocates reported. She followed up on specific numbers and geographic variations.
Sen. Rolison neutral Raise the Age implementation Secure detention bed capacity Staffing challenges for detention facilities Timeline for bed expansion Sen. Rolison asked detailed, substantive questions about detention bed capacity and staffing, drawing on his experience as former mayor of Poughkeepsie. He sought specific data on current bed capacity and timelines for expansion, demonstrating concern about the practical implementation challenges.
Sen. Rolison supportive Childcare workforce training requirements Business support infrastructure for childcare providers Career ladder development Sen. Rolison asked detailed questions about the training and infrastructure needed to support childcare workers, emphasizing the importance of the 0-3 age group in child development. She sought to understand the full scope of investments needed beyond wage increases.
Sen. Rolison skeptical Crime victim services funding and the shift away from victim-centered approach Domestic violence and crime victim advocacy Sen. Rolison, a retired police officer, expressed concern that the state is moving backward on crime victim services despite increased crime and domestic violence. He criticized the budget's focus on public safety without corresponding investment in victim services and offered to advocate for restoration of funding.
Sen. Scarcella-Spanton neutral Childcare desert funding Eligibility for childcare expansion grants Sen. Scarcella-Spanton asked about the timeline for childcare desert grant availability and whether providers opening new facilities would be eligible, indicating constituent interest in childcare expansion.
Sen. Scarcella-Spanton supportive Mobile veterans service centers Veteran nonprofit capital funding cuts Homeless veterans housing and supportive services Veterans Memorial Registry Joseph P. Dwyer Peer-to-Peer Program County-level breakdown of services Sen. Scarcella-Spanton, the new chair of the Veterans Committee, expressed strong support for the mobile veterans clinics and Find and Serve initiative while raising concerns about the 14% budget cut to veterans' programs and requesting detailed information on funding allocations, particularly for homeless veterans housing and peer-to-peer programs in specific counties.
Sen. Scarcella-Spanton supportive Domestic violence caseload increases and workforce retention Impact of staff turnover on victim trust and case progression Sen. Scarcella-Spanton thanked Gerhardt for highlighting various forms of abuse and asked pointed questions about balancing increased caseloads with workforce losses and the impact of advocate turnover on victim engagement, signaling concern about service quality.
Sen. Scarcella-Spanton supportive Adequacy of peer-to-peer funding across counties Impact of $5 million grant program allocation Regional variation in veteran density and funding needs Dwyer program structure and relationship to DVS Sen. Scarcella-Spanton asked detailed questions about funding sufficiency and regional variation in veteran populations, demonstrating strong support for the Dwyer program while seeking to understand how funding should be allocated across diverse county needs.
Sen. Thomas F. O'Mara unclear Sen. O'Mara, ranking member on Finance Committee, was noted as running late but present during the hearing. No questions or engagement recorded in transcript.
Sen. Weik supportive Veterans post facility repairs and grant applications Homeless veterans services Joseph P. Dwyer Peer-to-Peer Program Sen. Weik, representing Suffolk County with the largest veteran population in New York State, asked about assistance with grant applications for veteran post repairs and inquired about additional services for homeless veterans. He advocated for streamlining the grant signature process.
Sen. Weinstein neutral Hearing management and time allocation Ensuring follow-up answers to unanswered questions As co-chair, Sen. Weinstein managed the hearing proceedings, allocated speaking time, and ensured commissioners would provide written follow-up answers to questions that lacked sufficient time for response.