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2023-02-27 JOINT LEGISLATIVE HEARING In the Matter of the 2023-2024 EXECUTIVE BUDGET ON HIGHER EDUCATION Chair: Sen. Krueger View full transcript → Archive

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NEW YORK STATE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY JOINT HEARING ON HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET — The chancellors of SUNY and CUNY defended Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 higher education budget proposal on Monday, emphasizing affordability while supporting controversial tuition increases that would generate $97 million annually. The hearing, held before the joint fiscal committees of the Legislature, revealed sharp disagreement over the timing of tuition hikes amid enrollment declines at both systems. Chancellor John B. King Jr. of SUNY argued that the proposed tuition increases, combined with expanded TAP and Excelsior scholarship coverage, would not burden low-income students, since 53 percent of SUNY students already attend tuition-free. He highlighted $200 million in proposed digital transformation funding and a $1.5 billion research endowment for University Centers designed to compete with peer institutions nationally. Chancellor Félix V. Matos Rodríguez of CUNY noted that 70-80 percent of community college students would not see tuition increases due to financial aid coverage, and emphasized that the funds would support student retention services critical to reversing enrollment losses. However, Sen. Toby Stavisky, chair of the Senate Higher Education Committee, posed a pointed challenge: "How will a tuition increase help reverse the trend of declining enrollment?" She noted that CUNY has lost 100,000 students according to New York City Department of Education records and expressed disappointment that CUNY was not included in the Governor's transformational budget investments. King also addressed the financial crisis facing SUNY's three university hospitals, which serve as safety nets and workforce training centers. He noted that SUNY Downstate faces a $133 million operating deficit and that 85 percent of its patients are Medicare, Medicaid, or uninsured. The Legislature added nearly $70 million in hospital debt relief last year, but King said additional support is desperately needed. Matos Rodríguez highlighted CUNY's achievements, including 16,000 students enrolled in the CUNY Reconnect program, which exceeded its 10,000-student goal, and $417 million in research grants through the first half of the fiscal year. He also requested $7 million for the CUNY Medical School, described as the most diverse medical school in the nation outside of HBCUs. The hearing, the 10th in a series on the Governor's budget, included testimony from faculty unions, student advocates, and representatives of independent colleges. The tuition proposal emerged as the most contentious issue, with legislators questioning whether rate increases during inflationary times and amid enrollment challenges would achieve the stated goal of improving educational quality and access. NEW YORK — State University of New York and City University of New York leaders defended their budget requests before a joint legislative committee on Monday, as lawmakers raised sharp questions about funding disparities, tuition increases, and cuts to student support programs in the Governor's 2023-2024 executive budget proposal. SUNY Chancellor King and CUNY Chancellor Matos Rodríguez testified that both systems face enrollment declines and structural deficits, but emphasized their commitment to serving all communities and expanding workforce development programs in high-demand fields like nursing and cybersecurity. The hearing revealed significant tensions over the budget's allocation. The Governor proposed nearly $1 billion more for SUNY, including a $500 million endowment investment intended to generate $1.5 billion for University Centers, while proposing only $94 million for CUNY against its request for $313 million. This breaks from the traditional 60/40 funding split between the systems. Sen. Gounardes called the disparity "offensive," noting CUNY would receive only 35 percent of the proposed higher education funding. Sen. Liu pressed both chancellors on the abandonment of the historical parity, asking whether they were "really positive" about the proposal. Neither chancellor directly endorsed the funding disparity. On tuition, Chancellor King said SUNY has held tuition constant since 2019 and that the Governor's proposed increase would translate to "a couple of hundred dollars a year." However, Sen. Gounardes characterized any tuition increase as "a tax increase by another name," and Sen. Liu questioned whether there was a correlation between rising tuition and declining enrollment over the past decade. Key data points emerged during testimony: SUNY's 53 percent full-time faculty ratio compared to CUNY's 40 percent; CUNY's conversion of 80 percent of its 250 new faculty hires from adjunct positions; and the fact that 53 percent of SUNY students currently pay no tuition. Lawmakers also raised concerns about proposed cuts to opportunity programs. Assemblywoman Bichotte Hermelyn noted that SEEK and EOP programs—established by civil rights pioneers Shirley Chisholm and Arthur Eve—face proposed reductions of $1.3 million and $1.1 million respectively. Both chancellors expressed support for restoring this funding. On workforce development, both leaders highlighted efforts to address nursing shortages through simulation training. A bill by Assemblywoman Lupardo and Senator Stavisky would allow 30 percent of nursing clinical hours to be completed through simulation, which both chancellors said is critical to expanding the nursing pipeline. Community colleges emerged as another flashpoint. The Governor's budget includes a 20 percent withholding on community college funding pending submission of efficiency plans. Assemblywoman Clark questioned the timing, noting that previous withholding periods "never went well." Chancellor King said SUNY would work with campuses to develop plans focused on growing high-demand programs. The hearing is part of the Legislature's budget review process ahead of the April 1 deadline for enacting a state budget. New York's higher education leaders faced pointed questioning from state legislators on February 27 about the Governor's 2023-2024 budget proposal, with particular focus on affordability, enrollment declines, and institutional challenges facing SUNY and CUNY. CUNY Chancellor Félix Matos Rodríguez and SUNY Chancellor John King testified before the joint legislative Finance Committee, defending the administration's budget while acknowledging significant resource constraints. The chancellors requested substantial new investments: CUNY sought $53 million for STEM programming, citing higher costs to educate science and engineering students, while SUNY requested $120 million in operating aid increases to maintain current service levels. Legislators expressed deep concerns about the Governor's proposed tuition increases, with multiple lawmakers arguing that raising costs would further discourage enrollment at a time when both systems are losing students. Assemblywoman Forrest highlighted the burden on low-income families, noting that a family earning less than $70,000 would graduate from SUNY Geneseo with $30,000 in debt after paying $50,000 out of pocket. Sen. Jackson, an EOP program alumnus, opposed any tuition increase, advocating instead for higher taxes on wealthy New Yorkers and corporations. Chairwoman Krueger raised alarm about predatory for-profit colleges, noting that New York distributes more TAP grant money per student than any other state, effectively subsidizing low-quality institutions. She also questioned SUNY Upstate Hospital's aggressive debt collection practices against low-income patients, requesting a follow-up investigation. Other concerns included SUNY's vaccine mandate's impact on enrollment, nursing faculty shortages, campus hate incidents and antisemitism at CUNY, and the slow approval process for new academic programs. Chancellor King acknowledged a $7.7 billion capital maintenance backlog and committed to exploring faster program approval timelines. Chancellor Matos Rodríguez announced a comprehensive transfer reform initiative to make credit transfers seamless within CUNY and highlighted investments in paid internships, noting that 11,000 students applied for just 2,000 available positions through the Career Launch program. New York's higher education leaders faced pointed questions about enrollment declines, healthcare worker shortages, and for-profit college oversight during a joint legislative budget hearing on February 27, as lawmakers signaled they may not fully fund the governor's proposed transfer of professional licensing authority from the Education Department to the Health Department. NYSED Commissioner Betty Rosa testified that approximately 86,000 students with disabilities now attend New York colleges—a 15 percent increase over five years—yet receive only $27 per student from a $2 million state allocation. She requested $15 million to adequately support this growing population. Rosa also requested a 10 percent funding increase for Opportunity Programs serving over 46,000 students, and strongly opposed the governor's proposal to move healthcare professional licensing to the Department of Health, calling it "extreme" and a threat to public safety. The fraudulent nursing diploma crisis emerged as a major concern. Rosa disclosed that SED is investigating over 2,000 nursing licenses potentially obtained through fake credentials from Florida schools. Deputy Commissioner Sarah Benson noted that SED licenses approximately 35,000 nurses annually, with 30 percent coming from out-of-state, typically processed in two weeks. Assemblywoman Fahy, chair of the Higher Education Committee, pressed Rosa on declining high school enrollment and its ripple effects on college enrollments, citing a Chalkbeat article showing New York is an outlier in funding for-profit colleges while seeing high student loan default rates. She requested data comparing student engagement and retention in career and technical education versus traditional programs. Both SUNY Chancellor King and CUNY Chancellor Matos Rodríguez testified on childcare expansion efforts. SUNY operates 47 centers on 43 campuses with seven more planned; CUNY is building a new center at Queensborough Community College and expanding infant-toddler services. Assemblyman Ra pressed both on whether minimum wage increases would require additional state support to maintain childcare worker compensation and center affordability. Chairwoman Weinstein raised concerns about nursing shortages at SUNY hospitals, particularly at Downstate Medical Center, and questioned the status of capital improvements to the facility's parking garage, which has been closed due to safety concerns. The hearing revealed significant tension over the governor's healthcare licensing proposal, with multiple senators signaling skepticism about moving the Office of Professions from SED to the Department of Health, despite the governor's second consecutive year pushing the transfer. New York State education officials defended their 2023-2024 budget proposals at a joint legislative hearing Monday, emphasizing expanded access to higher education while facing pointed questions about proprietary school oversight and program approval delays. NYSED Commissioner Rosa and her team highlighted a $836 million increase in higher education support and detailed efforts to close 26 proprietary schools that failed to meet state standards. However, Chairwoman Krueger pressed for specifics on the closure process and raised concerns about 52 yeshivas receiving over $32 million annually in TAP funds without apparent oversight scrutiny. Senator Liu challenged SUNY's claims about program approval delays, with NYSED officials clarifying that roughly 40 percent of new program applications are approved within 10 days. The exchange suggested delays stem from SUNY Central's internal processes rather than state education department bottlenecks. HESC President Guillermo Linares reported strong early uptake of expanded TAP benefits for part-time students, with over 7,000 certified in fall 2022 compared to 2,000 the previous year—a 300 percent increase. He also noted that thousands of DREAM Act students are accessing benefits and that the state is on track to reach its 5,000-student target. Multiple legislators expressed concern about proposed reductions to EOP and CSTEP programs, with Senator Webb and Assemblyman Eachus calling them "lifesaving" for disadvantaged students. NYSED officials acknowledged teacher shortages remain acute in special education, English language learners, and STEM fields. The hearing, held February 27, revealed tensions between state oversight and institutional autonomy, with NYSED defending its regulatory role while facing questions about whether all higher education institutions—particularly yeshivas—receive equal scrutiny. New York's higher education system faces persistent funding gaps and enrollment challenges despite last year's budget investments, according to testimony at a joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 executive budget held February 27. Higher Education Services Corporation President José Linares reported that the state's Enhanced Tuition Award program has experienced dramatic decline, with participating colleges dropping from 38 in 2019-2020 to 27 currently, and student enrollment falling from 4,600 to 2,000. The agency is implementing TAP expansion to part-time students, with approximately 7,000 currently enrolled, and has extended financial aid to incarcerated individuals across 60 colleges operating 30 programs in 40 correctional facilities. Senator Liz Krueger pressed Linares on oversight of 52 yeshivas receiving TAP funds for approximately 7,200 students, seeking clarification on accreditation processes and credit transferability requirements. She requested a complete list of the institutions. Union representatives and faculty advocates outlined significant funding shortfalls. James Davis of the Professional Staff Congress testified that CUNY, which generated $57 billion in graduate earnings and $4.2 billion in state taxes in 2019 alone, is now demanding severe austerity cuts of an additional $100 million over the $75 million from fiscal 2023. The PSC is requesting $82 million to cover mandatory cost increases. Andrew Dobbyn of the Graduate Student Employees Union called for $10 million to eliminate fees for approximately 5,000 graduate assistants who currently must pay 8-20 percent of their minimal stipends in fees—pushing some into poverty. He urged inclusion of Senator Stavisky's fee elimination bill in one-house budgets. Andrew Sako of the Faculty Federation of Erie Community College requested the Legislature hold harmless community college base aid at 100 percent of 2019-20 levels, which would provide $23 million additional funding, noting that State Education Law requires the state to pay 40 percent of operating costs. James McCartney of the SUNY Police Lieutenants Benevolent Association testified that the department has lost 114 officers over two years—only 19 to retirement—largely due to the 25-year pension requirement compared to the 20-year standard for 96 percent of police and firefighters nationally. He cited a projected $67 million cost for pension parity but noted each departing officer represents approximately $120,000 in lost training costs. Senator Joe Griffo questioned whether the system could sustain TAP eligibility expansion to potentially 24,000 additional families and advocated for reinstating Graduate TAP focused on critical workforce shortage fields including nursing, education, and STEM. NEW YORK — Union leaders and higher education advocates urged state lawmakers on Monday to dramatically increase funding for public universities and student support programs, warning that chronic underfunding threatens enrollment and workforce development across New York. Testifying before a joint legislative hearing on the 2023-2024 higher education budget, Dr. Fred Kowal of the United University Professions said SUNY has experienced a $7.8 billion decline in direct state support since 2008-2009 when adjusted for inflation, despite the state's $8.6 billion budget surplus. He highlighted that 19 SUNY campuses face a cumulative structural deficit of $160 million and called for immediate investment to address the crisis. "Funding a public university system on the private money of students is totally unsustainable," Kowal testified, opposing tuition increases championed by some administrators. "This is a public university system, and by its nature you need to have public investment." Kowal cited alarming enrollment data: 60 percent of African-American high school graduates in New York do not attend higher education, as do 35 percent of Hispanic graduates. He argued that increased public investment would reverse these trends and generate $8 in economic activity for every $1 invested in SUNY institutions. Dr. James Davis of the Professional Staff Congress, representing CUNY faculty, echoed the call for public investment, noting that CUNY lost almost 800 full-time faculty through attrition and retirement over four years during the pandemic. While acknowledging progress in hiring full-time faculty with a $53 million allocation, Davis said much of that funding is backfilling lost positions. Davis and other union leaders opposed tuition increases, with Davis calling for the state to maintain the historic 60/40 funding balance between SUNY and CUNY. He suggested that if SUNY receives an additional $1 billion, CUNY should receive approximately $667 million to maintain parity. Patrick Dobbyn of the Communications Workers of America testified about the "pay-to-work" system where graduate students pay fees from their stipends. He said all 5,000 CWA members previously paid approximately $2,000 annually in fees, with base stipends around $20,000, meaning students pay 10-20 percent of their income in fees. He criticized the lack of uniformity across campuses and argued that fee elimination is necessary to attract and retain graduate student workers. Community college advocates pressed for stable, enrollment-independent funding. Andy Sako warned that FTE-based funding is "killing" community colleges and called for wraparound services including financial aid, advisement, and support for students facing food insecurity and transportation barriers. Assemblywoman Helene Weinstein (D-Brooklyn), chairing the hearing, and other lawmakers signaled support for increased public investment. Assemblywoman Monica Wallace emphasized the economic importance of regional campuses like Buffalo State, Brockport, and Fredonia as anchors in their communities. Assemblyman Ron Kim pressed for data on why students are dropping out, noting that CUNY recovered 16,000 previously enrolled students and suggesting larger efforts could yield more. Dr. Renaldo Alba, representing CSTEP and STEP programs serving 20,000 students, requested a 20 percent funding increase, citing inflation that has raised the minimum wage from $8.75 in 2015 to $14.20 statewide. He said all programs remain "hobbled" by an outdated 2014 funding formula that fails to account for pandemic-related student crises including food and housing insecurity. Advocates for independent colleges and student support organizations also testified. Samuel Rowser of On Point for College highlighted that the organization's students persist at 74.3 percent, 25 percent higher than typical first-generation students, and contribute over $23 million in tuition and fees to community colleges. Lola Brabham of the Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities called for expanded Tuition Assistance Program funding and restoration of $30 million in higher education capital funding. The hearing, held February 27, reflected growing consensus among education advocates that New York's public higher education system requires substantial new investment to address workforce shortages, enrollment declines, and equity gaps. Lawmakers appeared receptive to the arguments, with several signaling support for increased funding and opposition to tuition increases. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE HEARS TESTIMONY ON HIGHER EDUCATION SUPPORT PROGRAMS — Advocates for five major student support initiatives testified before the New York State Legislature on Feb. 27 regarding the 2023-2024 Executive Budget for higher education, requesting significant funding increases to address enrollment declines and student retention challenges. The Liberty Partnership Programs, celebrating its 35th anniversary as New York's only state-funded dropout prevention program, requested a 20 percent funding increase and removal of per-pupil funding caps. The program serves over 15,000 at-risk youth and reported a 91 percent graduation rate with less than 1 percent dropout rate among seniors. Liz Altman, president of Friends of the New York State Liberty Partnership Programs, also raised concerns about chronic delays in funding access, often arriving in the second or third fiscal year, jeopardizing service continuity. The Fostering Youth College Success Initiative, established in 2015-2016, requested an additional $2.08 million to reach $10 million in total funding. The program currently serves close to 1,000 students across more than 100 colleges and universities. Deidra Nesbeth of the Fostering Youth Success Alliance noted that 25 percent of foster youth are preoccupied with housing insecurity, making college planning difficult. Independent colleges and universities reported enrollment challenges, with a 5 percent decline following the Excelsior Scholarship introduction and pandemic-related losses. Dr. Brabham of the Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities proposed raising the TAP income limit to $110,000 to capture an additional 24,000 eligible students, and advocated for increased Bundy Aid funding, currently at $35 million—only 18 percent of statutory levels. CSTEP and STEP programs reported strong outcomes, with over 75 percent of CSTEP students graduating and 80 percent of STEP graduates pursuing professional degrees in STEM and health fields. Dr. Alba requested a 20 percent funding increase for all Opportunity Programs and emphasized the importance of wraparound support services addressing housing, food insecurity, and transportation barriers. Legislators engaged substantively on multiple fronts. Assemblywoman Clark raised concerns about housing insecurity among college students, noting that community colleges now have more students living in shelters than ever before. Assemblyman Epstein pressed for detailed data on student attrition, questioning whether TAP funding exhaustion drives departures. Sen. Gounardes challenged independent colleges on diversity practices, expressing concern that legacy admissions and early decision policies perpetuate exclusion of lower-income students. Several legislators noted discrepancies between reported and actual timelines. Dr. Brabham reported that while SED claims a 22-day average for program approvals, CICU member schools have experienced waits of several months to several years. Assemblywoman Hyndman, a former CSTEP administrator, praised the programs as producing successful professionals nationwide and advocated for renaming Bundy Aid to increase awareness. The hearing underscored tensions between enrollment declines across all higher education sectors and the demonstrated effectiveness of targeted support programs. Legislators signaled strong support for increased funding for precollege and college support initiatives, with multiple members characterizing these programs as essential to student retention and workforce development. NEW YORK STATE SENATE COMMITTEE ON HIGHER EDUCATION FINANCE — Advocates and institutional representatives testified before the joint legislative committee on February 27 in support of increased state funding for student support services, with particular emphasis on sexual assault prevention, food insecurity, reproductive healthcare access, and nursing workforce development. The hearing revealed stark gaps in campus services. Emily Miles, executive director of the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault, testified that the Enough Is Enough sexual assault prevention program has been flat-funded at $4.5 million since its 2015 inception, leaving 92,000 students across 60 unserved colleges without access to critical services. Miles noted that her organization serves 102,000 students across 14 New York City campuses with a single full-time coordinator, requesting an increase to $9.6 million to expand reach and provide culturally responsive prevention materials. Food insecurity emerged as a crisis affecting roughly half of all CUNY and SUNY students. Robb Friedlander of Swipe Out Hunger cited a 2020 study showing 48 percent of CUNY students and 40 percent of SUNY students are food-insecure—rising to 51 and 54 percent respectively at community colleges. He documented severe underfunding, noting that of nine CUNY pantries studied, only one had a budget exceeding $20,000. Friedlander requested $10 million for the Hunger Free Campus initiative, noting that food-insecure students are 2.5 times more likely to fail or drop out. Niharika Rao, a student and abortion doula with the Reproductive Justice Collective, requested $10 million to provide medication abortion access at SUNY and CUNY campus health centers, emphasizing that young people account for more than half of all U.S. abortions and face unique barriers including limited financial resources. She noted that medication abortion is safe, with only 0.4 percent of patients requiring hospitalization. Dr. Melanie Bernitz of Columbia Health testified in support of New York joining the Interstate Medical Licensure Compact and Nurse Licensure Compact, arguing these would improve continuity of care for approximately 1 million students enrolled in New York higher education. Nicole Livanos of the National Council of State Boards of Nursing noted that New York would become the 40th member state and that the state faces a predicted shortage of 39,000 registered nurses by 2030. Bloomberg Institute for Public Policy Research (NYPIRG) opposed the Governor's tuition increase proposal, urging instead increased state support and restoration of cuts to Opportunity Programs and the Tuition Assistance Program. Donna Stelling-Gurnett of the Association of Private Colleges requested expansion of part-time TAP to proprietary college students and elimination of disparities between dependent and independent TAP schedules, noting that single independent students face a maximum income threshold of just $10,000 annually. Sen. Webb pressed testifiers on data and awareness, asking about food insecurity statistics and ways to promote awareness of support services beyond funding increases. The hearing underscored persistent underfunding of student support services despite documented need. NEW YORK STATE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE HEARS TESTIMONY ON HIGHER EDUCATION BUDGET, NURSING COMPACT, AND PROPRIETARY COLLEGES Albany — The New York State Legislature's joint Finance Committee held an extended hearing on the 2023-2024 higher education budget on Monday, with testimony focusing on the nursing licensure compact, Tuition Assistance Program expansion, and the role of proprietary colleges in serving New York students. The National Council of State Boards of Nursing urged New York to adopt the nursing licensure compact, which currently includes 39 member jurisdictions. Nicole Livanos testified that the compact would provide immediate access to out-of-state nurses to address critical workforce shortages, while maintaining New York's existing licensure standards for state residents. She noted that during the COVID-19 pandemic, 34 compact states were able to rapidly deploy nurses across borders to address emergency hotspots. Vermont, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey are among neighboring states that have already adopted the compact. Assemblywoman Hyndman noted that New York's nursing education programs would take five to six years to produce sufficient graduates to address current shortages, making the compact an important interim solution. However, Assemblywoman Simon expressed skepticism about whether the compact would meaningfully address the nursing shortage, which she characterized as a longstanding national problem. The Association of Private Colleges (APC) presented data on proprietary institutions' role in New York higher education. APC President Donna Stelling-Gurnett testified that the 11 APC member institutions serve approximately 20,000 of the state's 25,000 proprietary college students. She reported that over 90 percent of APC students are from New York, and over 80 percent of graduates remain in the state. APC member institutions provide over $100 million in institutional aid annually. Stelling-Gurnett advocated for raising the TAP income threshold from $80,000 to $110,000-$125,000 and for restoring Graduate TAP for high-need fields such as nursing. Sen. Murray proposed an alternative approach: tying the TAP threshold to regional median income rather than a flat statewide figure, noting that Long Island's higher median income makes the current $80,000 threshold particularly restrictive. Assemblyman Epstein pressed Stelling-Gurnett for specific data on default rates, graduation rates, and student barriers to TAP access, emphasizing that policy decisions should be driven by concrete data rather than anecdotal evidence. He noted that the APC website contains graduation rate data and requested additional information on five-year default rates and reasons students fail to access TAP despite eligibility. Stelling-Gurnett clarified that recent media reports conflating default rates for degree-granting proprietary colleges with non-degree institutions were misleading. She noted that the U.S. Department of Education calculates only three-year cohort default rates; the five-year figures cited in recent articles are projections rather than official data. Assemblywoman Simon raised concerns about oversight of proprietary colleges, citing the case of ASA College, where leadership faced sexual assault allegations. Stelling-Gurnett clarified that ASA is not an APC member and stated that APC institutions work closely with state education officials and accreditors to address institutional governance issues. The hearing concluded at 6:46 p.m. A follow-up Health Committee hearing on nursing licensure is scheduled for the following day at 10:00 a.m.

Topic Summary

Joint legislative hearing on Governor Hochul's 2023-2024 Executive Budget proposal for higher education, focusing on SUNY and CUNY funding, proposed tuition increases, enrollment challenges, research endowments, and support for distressed campuses and university hospitals.

Testimony (74)

Dr. John B. King, Jr. agency_official supportive
Chancellor, State University of New York
Chancellor King outlined SUNY's commitment to affordability and accessibility while supporting the Governor's budget proposal. He emphasized that 53% of SUNY students attend tuition-free and half graduate debt-free. He highlighted investments in faculty hiring, enrollment initiatives, digital transformation, and a research endowment for University Centers. He also stressed the need for additional support for the three university hospitals, which serve as safety nets and workforce training centers.
SUNY Chancellor King agency_official supportive
State University of New York
Chancellor King outlined SUNY's response to budget challenges, including campus-by-campus cost-saving measures of 2-7 percent depending on fiscal health. He emphasized SUNY's commitment to all 64 communities where campuses are located and stated the system is not contemplating closures or consolidations. He highlighted the need for $53 million in additional operating dollars for STEM students and discussed efforts to address nursing shortages through simulation training and faculty recruitment.
SUNY Chancellor King agency_official supportive
State University of New York
Chancellor King testified in support of the Governor's budget proposal, emphasizing the need for continued investment in public higher education to attract and retain students. He highlighted the importance of faculty investments, student services, and addressing a $7.7 billion capital maintenance backlog. He discussed the need for a five-year investment plan and expressed support for the Governor's endowment proposal for University Centers.
SUNY Chancellor King agency_official supportive
State University of New York
Chancellor King testified on SUNY's budget priorities, emphasizing the importance of state funding for SUNY hospitals and medical centers as drivers of healthcare workforce production. He discussed the UB Medical Center's role in the Buffalo health ecosystem and advocated for including debt service for the Jacobs School of Medicine with SUNY hospital debt service. He also highlighted SUNY's expansion of childcare centers on campuses and stressed the need for additional funding to support student parents and adequately compensate childcare workers.
NYSED Commissioner Rosa agency_official informational
New York State Education Department
Commissioner Rosa testified on NYSED's 2023-2024 budget priorities, emphasizing cross-agency collaboration on career/technical education, teacher shortages in special education and STEM fields, proprietary school oversight including 26 school closures, and the complexity of program approval processes. She highlighted efforts to support students transitioning between institutions and work with BOCES programs.
HESC President José Linares agency_official informational
Higher Education Services Corporation (HESC)
Linares provided detailed testimony on TAP program implementation, including expansion to part-time students (approximately 7,000 currently enrolled), the declining Enhanced Tuition Award program, and TAP eligibility for students at yeshivas. He discussed the DREAM Act as a success, part-time TAP formula based on credits and income, and the relationship between TAP and Excelsior scholarships. He committed to following up on questions regarding the Comprehensive Transition Postsecondary program for students with intellectual disabilities and various data requests.
Dr. Fred Kowal advocate opposed
President, United University Professions (UUP)
Dr. Kowal testified on behalf of 37,000 UUP members, arguing that despite the state's $8.6 billion surplus, SUNY has experienced a $7.8 billion decline in direct state support since 2008-2009 when adjusted for inflation. He highlighted that 19 SUNY campuses face a cumulative structural deficit of $160 million and called for increased investment in SUNY hospitals, which serve as teaching hospitals and providers of last resort in communities of color. He opposed tuition increases as a solution, citing research showing that lack of public investment curtails enrollment.
Liz Altman advocate supportive
President, Friends of the New York State Liberty Partnership Programs, Inc.
Altman testified on behalf of Liberty Partnership Programs, celebrating its 35th anniversary as New York's only state-funded dropout prevention program. She requested removal of the per-pupil funding cap and a 20 percent funding increase to expand services. She highlighted the program's 91 percent graduation rate and less than 1 percent dropout rate among seniors, and emphasized Liberty's unique position to support the Governor's mental health initiatives in K-12 settings. She also raised concerns about chronic late funding access, often delayed until the second or third fiscal year.
Dr. Alba academic supportive
Unknown (mental health professional)
Dr. Alba briefly testified in support of culturally responsive mental health services, emphasizing the importance of cultural nuance in mental health treatment, particularly for Black and brown communities.
Ms. Livanos advocate supportive
National Council of State Boards of Nursing
Ms. Livanos testified in support of New York adopting the nursing licensure compact. She explained that the compact is based on primary state of residence and that New York residents would still need to meet state-specific requirements. She noted that 39 member jurisdictions currently participate in the compact and that it provides flexibility for workforce deployment during emergencies and enables telehealth expansion.
Félix V. Matos Rodríguez agency_official supportive
Chancellor, City University of New York
Chancellor Matos Rodríguez highlighted CUNY's role as the largest urban public university with 220,000 degree-seeking students and 150,000 in adult and continuing education. He emphasized CUNY's achievements in research funding, diversity, and economic mobility. He discussed enrollment challenges and initiatives like CUNY Reconnect (which enrolled 16,000+ students), CUNY Online, and transfer initiatives. He supported the tuition increase proposal, noting that 70-80% of community college students would not see increases due to TAP and Pell coverage. He also requested $7 million for the CUNY Medical School.
CUNY Chancellor Matos Rodríguez agency_official supportive
City University of New York
Chancellor Matos Rodríguez testified about CUNY's efforts to address enrollment challenges and modernize programs. He highlighted that 80 percent of the 250 faculty hires so far from last year's funding were adjunct conversions. He discussed redesigning applied associate's degrees, incorporating apprenticeships, and addressing mental health services. He emphasized CUNY's role as anchor institutions in the boroughs and requested similar capital and strategic funding investments as proposed for SUNY.
CUNY Chancellor Matos Rodríguez agency_official supportive
City University of New York
Chancellor Matos Rodríguez testified on CUNY's budget priorities, including a $53 million request for STEM programming, investments in online education, career engagement programs, and efforts to address campus hate incidents. He discussed transfer reform initiatives, support for students with disabilities, and the importance of paid internships. He also addressed concerns about medication abortion availability and religious holiday accommodations.
CUNY Chancellor Matos Rodríguez agency_official supportive
City University of New York
Chancellor Matos Rodríguez testified on CUNY's budget needs and initiatives. He discussed CUNY's childcare expansion efforts, including building a new center at Queensborough Community College and expanding infant/toddler services across the system. He addressed CUNY's structural deficit and outlined efficiency measures including renegotiated leases generating $100 million in savings over 10 years. He also discussed CUNY's $750,000 allocation to combat antisemitism and other forms of discrimination on campuses.
Senior Deputy Commissioner Baldwin agency_official informational
New York State Education Department
Sr. Dep. Commissioner Baldwin provided detailed testimony on BOCES reimbursement formulas, career/technical education funding, P-TECH program structure and attrition rates, program approval timelines, and proprietary school oversight processes. He explained that the current BOCES salary reimbursement cap is $30,000 and discussed the 40 percent approval rate for new programs within 10 days.
James McCartney advocate opposed
New York State University Police Lieutenants Benevolent Association
McCartney testified on behalf of SUNY police officers, advocating for pension parity—specifically a 20-year retirement instead of the current 25-year requirement. He cited recruitment and retention challenges, noting that 96 percent of police and firefighters nationally receive 20-year pensions. He documented recent officer departures, campus safety incidents, and the cost of losing trained officers, requesting inclusion of the 20-year pension in one-house budgets.
Dr. James Davis advocate opposed
President, Professional Staff Congress (PSC), CUNY
Dr. Davis testified that PSC supports additional public revenue for universities rather than tuition increases. He noted that CUNY lost almost 800 full-time faculty through attrition and retirement over approximately four years during the pandemic. While acknowledging progress in hiring full-time faculty with the $53 million allocation, he emphasized that much of this funding is backfilling positions lost during the pandemic. He advocated for maintaining the historic 60/40 funding balance between SUNY and CUNY.
Deidra Nesbeth advocate supportive
Fostering Youth Success Alliance
Nesbeth testified on behalf of the Fostering Youth Success Alliance regarding the Foster Youth College Success Initiative (FYCSI). She noted that FYCSI, established in 2015-2016, has served over 2,000 students and currently supports close to 1,000 students across more than 100 public and private colleges and universities. While acknowledging the Governor's proposed $7.92 million in funding, she requested an additional $2.08 million for a total of $10 million. She emphasized that FYCSI resources enable foster youth to access tuition, housing, transportation, books, and other support, making higher education accessible.
Emily Miles advocate supportive
Executive Director, New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault
Miles testified in support of increased funding for the Enough Is Enough (EIE) sexual assault prevention program on college campuses. She requested an increase from $4.5 million to $9.6 million annually, citing inadequate staffing and gaps in service coverage affecting 92,000 students across 60 unserved campuses.
Ms. Stelling-Gurnett advocate supportive
Association of Private Colleges (APC)
Ms. Stelling-Gurnett testified on behalf of APC, representing 11 degree-granting proprietary institutions. She provided data on student enrollment and outcomes, advocated for raising the TAP income threshold from $80,000 to $110,000-$125,000, and supported restoring Graduate TAP for high-need fields like nursing. She also clarified that APC institutions represent the majority of proprietary college students in New York.
Betty A. Rosa agency_official informational
Commissioner, NYS Education Department
Commissioner Rosa testified regarding the Education Department's role in the higher education budget. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblyman Epstein elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Epstein questioned both chancellors on medication abortion availability, funding for students with disabilities, the impact of proposed $100 million CUNY cuts on student services, and concerns about rising tuition making it harder to attract students back to the systems.
Dr. Betty A. Rosa, Commissioner of Education agency_official supportive
New York State Education Department
Commissioner Rosa testified on SED's budget priorities and initiatives. She requested a 10 percent funding increase for Opportunity Programs (Liberty Partnership, HEOP, STEP, CSTEP), noting these serve over 46,000 students. She requested $15 million for post-secondary support for students with disabilities (currently 86,000 students, up 15 percent in five years, receiving only $27 per student from current $2 million allocation). She strongly opposed the Governor's proposal to transfer healthcare professional licensing authority from SED to the Department of Health, arguing the current integrated system works effectively. She also addressed concerns about for-profit colleges, fraudulent nursing diplomas from Florida schools, and SED's modernization efforts.
Executive Deputy Commissioner Cates-Williams agency_official informational
New York State Education Department
Exec. Dep. Commissioner Cates-Williams confirmed that proprietary school supervision staff positions are included in overall NYSED budget numbers and that three positions have been included for Bureau of Proprietary School Supervision (BPSS).
Andrew Dobbyn advocate opposed
Graduate Student Employees Union (GSEU-SWA 1104)
Dobbyn testified on behalf of approximately 5,000 graduate assistants, teaching assistants, and research assistants across SUNY, advocating for elimination of fee remission requirements. He described the hardship of graduate students required to pay 8-20 percent of their income in fees despite earning minimal stipends and being prohibited from outside employment. He requested $10 million in the budget to eliminate fees and urged inclusion of Senator Stavisky's fee elimination bill in one-house budgets.
Mr. Andy Sako advocate opposed
Community colleges representative
Mr. Sako advocated for stable, enrollment-independent funding for community colleges, arguing that FTE-based funding is 'killing' community colleges. He emphasized the critical importance of wraparound services including financial aid, advisement, and support for students facing food insecurity, transportation issues, and other barriers. He opposed any holdback of funding and cited historical instances when community colleges were cut during high-enrollment years.
Dr. Brabham advocate supportive
Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities (CICU)
Dr. Brabham testified on behalf of independent colleges and universities, addressing enrollment challenges and student support. She noted that independent colleges experienced a 5 percent enrollment reduction following the Excelsior Scholarship introduction, with pandemic-related declines following. She reported current net enrollment decline of approximately 3 percent with signs of recovery, particularly at larger institutions with international reputations. Regional schools serving primarily New York students continue to struggle. She advocated for increased student aid and proposed raising the TAP income limit to $110,000 to capture an additional 24,000 eligible students. She also discussed Bundy Aid funding and program approval timelines.
Niharika Rao advocate supportive
Student, abortion doula, lead organizer of Reproductive Justice Collective; works at Advocates for Youth
Rao testified in support of allocating $10 million in state funding to provide medication abortion access at SUNY and CUNY campus health centers. She emphasized that medication abortion is safe, that young people face unique barriers to access, and that on-campus provision would reduce costs and travel time for students.
Mr. Horner advocate supportive
NYPIRG (New York Public Interest Research Group)
Mr. Horner testified regarding Graduate TAP restoration. He expressed a preference for restoring Graduate TAP across the board rather than limiting it to specific high-need fields, noting the difficulty in determining which programs should be included or excluded.
Dr. Guillermo Linares agency_official informational
President, NYS Higher Education Services Corporation (HESC)
Dr. Linares testified on behalf of HESC regarding financial aid and higher education services. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Sen. Chu elected_official neutral
New York State Senate
Sen. Chu, representing over 10,000 CUNY students, questioned Chancellor Matos Rodríguez about recognizing Lunar New Year and Eid as university-wide holidays given the high enrollment of Asian and Muslim students in her district. She highlighted the importance of diversity and cultural inclusion in higher education.
Deputy Commissioner Benson agency_official informational
New York State Education Department
Deputy Commissioner Benson testified on the relationship between the Education Department and the Legislature, noting that NYSED is not an executive agency but rather accountable to the Legislature through the appointed Regents. She expressed concerns about proposed transfers of professions from SED to DOH, noting it would change the direct relationship between the department and the Legislature.
Andrew Sako advocate supportive
Faculty Federation of Erie Community College
Sako testified on behalf of NYSUT regarding community college funding. He praised the 2022-2023 budget but emphasized that one year cannot reverse years of austerity. He called for significant state investment, noting that State Education Law requires 40 percent of operating costs be paid by the state. He requested the Legislature hold harmless base aid at 100 percent of 2019-20 levels or $3,250 per FTE, which would provide $23 million additional funding over the Executive Budget proposal.
Mr. Patrick Dobbyn advocate opposed
State President, CWA (Communications Workers of America)
Mr. Dobbyn testified about the 'pay-to-work' system where graduate students and other academic workers pay fees from their stipends. He explained that all 5,000 CWA members previously paid approximately $2,000 annually in fees, though recent victories have provided some relief. Base stipends average around $20,000, meaning students pay 10-20 percent of their income in fees. He criticized the lack of uniformity across campuses and argued that fee elimination is necessary to attract and retain graduate student workers. He also criticized high administrative salaries relative to teaching and research staff.
Dr. Alba advocate supportive
CSTEP/STEP Programs
Dr. Alba testified on behalf of CSTEP and STEP programs, emphasizing their role in supporting underrepresented students in STEM and health-licensed fields. She cited that over 75 percent of CSTEP students graduate and over 80 percent of STEP graduates pursue professional degree programs in STEM and targeted fields. She requested a 20 percent increase in funding for all Opportunity Programs and advocated for investment in the pipeline of programs from 5th through 16th grade (LPP, STEP, CSTEP, HEOP, EOP, SEEK). She addressed housing insecurity, food insecurity, and the need for wraparound support services on campuses.
Robb Friedlander advocate supportive
Advocacy Director, Swipe Out Hunger
Friedlander testified in support of the Hunger Free Campus initiative, requesting $10 million in funding to address college student food insecurity. He documented severe underfunding of campus food pantries and cited alarming statistics showing 40-54 percent of SUNY and CUNY students are food-insecure.
Dr. James Davis advocate neutral
President, Professional Staff Congress/CUNY
Dr. Davis testified on behalf of CUNY faculty. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblywoman Forrest elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Assemblywoman Forrest, a CUNY alumna, questioned Chancellor Matos Rodríguez about the $53 million STEM programming request and expressed support for it. She also questioned Chancellor King about student debt burden, noting that a family making less than $70,000 would graduate from SUNY Geneseo with $30,000 in debt after paying $50,000 out of pocket.
Dr. Guillermo Linares agency_official supportive
New York State Higher Education Services Corporation (HESC)
HESC President Linares testified on the 2023-2024 Executive Budget for higher education, highlighting the $836 million (12.6 percent) annual increase in support. He emphasized TAP's 50-year history, expansion to part-time and incarcerated students, DREAM Act implementation, and HESC's role in administering over $900 million in financial aid to approximately 300,000 students in 2021-22.
James Davis advocate supportive
Professional Staff Congress (PSC), City University of New York
Davis testified on behalf of PSC, representing 30,000 CUNY faculty and staff. He praised prior-year budget support but outlined funding priorities including $82 million for mandatory cost increases, full-time faculty hiring, enhanced academic advisement and mental health services, community college funding floor, and graduate education support. He highlighted CUNY's economic impact and noted that the university is currently demanding severe austerity cuts of an additional $100 million over the $75 million from fiscal 2023 due to persistent budget gaps.
Mr. McCartney agency_official informational
University Police, SUNY
Mr. McCartney testified about community policing efforts at SUNY campuses, including engagement with student clubs and organizations through programs like 'Coffee with a Cop,' 'Donut with a Cop,' and 'Gaming with Cops.' He noted that Binghamton University recently established a Campus Citizen Review Board and indicated this was the first such board he was aware of. He emphasized the importance of building rapport with students and providing them with accessible points of contact.
Mr. Rowser advocate supportive
On Point for College
Mr. Rowser testified on behalf of On Point for College, emphasizing the importance of wraparound support services for students. He highlighted specific barriers students face, including housing insecurity, lack of transportation, and inability to purchase textbooks. He advocated for maintaining and expanding wraparound services on campuses and recommended investment in STEP, CSTEP, LPP, and Fostering Youth programs as key to student retention.
Dr. Melanie Bernitz agency_official supportive
Senior Vice President, Columbia Health; family physician
Bernitz testified in support of New York joining the Interstate Medical Licensure Compact and Nurse Licensure Compact. She argued these compacts would improve continuity of care for the approximately 1 million students enrolled in New York higher education by allowing providers to practice across state lines and enabling telehealth services.
Dr. Frederick E. Kowal advocate neutral
President, United University Professions
Dr. Kowal testified on behalf of SUNY faculty. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Sen. Robert Jackson elected_official opposed
New York State Senate
Sen. Jackson, an EOP program alumnus, expressed opposition to tuition increases and concerns about cuts to the EOP program. He advocated for increased revenue from wealthy New Yorkers and corporate taxes, and called for ensuring all campuses have health centers. He requested information on what more can be done to secure resources for faculty raises.
Dr. Renaldo Alba advocate opposed
Association for Program Administrators of CSTEP and STEP
Dr. Alba testified on behalf of 121 CSTEP and STEP projects serving 20,000 students. He noted that these programs have served close to half a million students over 37 years. While grateful for recent expansion (21 new projects, 2,000 new CSTEP students, 860 new STEP students), he argued that all projects remain 'hobbled' by an outdated 2014 funding formula that has not kept pace with inflation and increased student needs. He requested a 20 percent funding increase to address food and housing insecurity, technology needs, and other pandemic-related challenges.
Blair Horner advocate opposed
NYPIRG (board of directors are college and university students from SUNY, CUNY, and independent colleges)
Horner testified on behalf of NYPIRG opposing the Governor's tuition increase proposal and advocating for increased state support for higher education. He urged restoration of cuts to Opportunity Programs and the Tuition Assistance Program, and called for deeper analysis of enrollment decline data.
Andrew Sako advocate neutral
President, Faculty Federation of Erie Community College
Andrew Sako testified on behalf of Erie Community College faculty. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblywoman Seawright elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblywoman Seawright, a CUNY Law alumna and mother of two SUNY graduates, questioned Chancellor Matos Rodríguez about transfer difficulties between CUNY campuses and career engagement programs. She expressed interest in expanding adaptive sports programs like wheelchair basketball to SUNY.
Mr. Samuel Rowser advocate supportive
Executive Director, On Point for College
Mr. Rowser testified that On Point for College has helped more than 3,000 students graduate from college since its founding in 1999. He highlighted that 90 percent of students earning a bachelor's degree are lifted out of poverty and that On Point graduates will earn over $3 billion over their lifetimes. The organization provides comprehensive support including college access services, financial aid assistance, transportation, housing support, and emergency assistance. Seventy percent of On Point's 2,400 enrolled students attend public colleges, contributing over $23 million in tuition and fees to community colleges. On Point students persist at 74.3 percent, 25 percent higher than typical first-generation students.
Donna Stelling-Gurnett industry supportive
President, Association of Private Colleges (formerly Association of Proprietary Colleges)
Stelling-Gurnett testified on behalf of APC, requesting two policy changes: expansion of part-time TAP to proprietary college students and elimination of the disparity between dependent and independent TAP schedules. She highlighted that independent students face significantly lower income thresholds and maximum awards.
James McCartney advocate neutral
Director, NYS University Police Lieutenants Benevolent Association; President, PBA of New York State
James McCartney testified on behalf of university police. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Sen. Stavisky elected_official neutral
New York State Senate
Sen. Stavisky questioned Chancellor Matos Rodríguez about campus hate incidents and antisemitism at CUNY campuses, expressing concern about the issue. She also questioned Chancellor King about differential funding for University Centers, specifically asking about Albany and Binghamton.
Ms. Lola Brabham advocate supportive
President, Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities (CICU)
Ms. Brabham testified on behalf of CICU's more than 100 private nonprofit colleges and universities serving nearly 500,000 students, more than half of whom are New Yorkers. She highlighted that CICU members award 58 percent of education degrees, 61 percent of STEM degrees, and two-thirds of nursing degrees in the state. She emphasized that two-thirds of CICU students come from families earning less than $125,000 annually and advocated for expanded Tuition Assistance Program funding, Bundy Aid, and support for opportunity programs. She also called for restoration of $30 million in higher education capital funding and highlighted CICU's partnership with SUNY and CUNY on nursing shortage solutions.
Nicole Livanos agency_official supportive
National Council of State Boards of Nursing
Livanos testified in support of New York joining the Nurse Licensure Compact (NLC), which would make New York the 40th member state. She argued the compact addresses nursing workforce shortages, maintains state-level licensure standards, and has been safely operational for over 20 years.
Andrew Dobbyn advocate neutral
State President, CWA 1104-GSEU
Andrew Dobbyn testified on behalf of CWA union members. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblyman Eachus elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Eachus, a SUNY graduate with 40 years of high school teaching experience, advocated for expanding AP and dual enrollment programs. He noted that his high school students received college credit from private schools but not SUNY/CUNY, and questioned whether the chancellors would invest time in expanding high school credit programs.
Dr. Renaldo D. Alba advocate neutral
President, Association of Program Administrators for CSTEP and STEP, Inc. (APACS)
Dr. Alba testified on behalf of CSTEP and STEP program administrators. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Chairwoman Krueger elected_official skeptical
New York State Senate
Chairwoman Krueger raised multiple concerns: research showing potential overproduction of Ph.D.s, loss of students to predatory for-profit colleges, and concerns about SUNY Upstate Hospital suing low-income patients despite receiving DSH funding. She questioned whether TAP grant policies should be changed to prevent funding predatory institutions.
Samuel Rowser advocate neutral
Executive Director, On Point for College
Samuel Rowser testified on behalf of On Point for College. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblywoman Hyndman elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblywoman Hyndman questioned the timeline for SED approval of online courses and programs, noting that delays allow predatory for-profit colleges to move faster. She asked about nursing program waitlists and the challenge of retaining nursing faculty given salary competition from the private sector.
Lola W. Brabham advocate neutral
President, Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities (CICU)
Lola Brabham testified on behalf of independent colleges and universities. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblywoman Wallace elected_official opposed
New York State Assembly
Assemblywoman Wallace expressed concerns about the tuition increase proposal and the endowment proposal. She questioned Chancellor King about support for a 20-year pension plan for SUNY police and about a proposed $160 million distressed college fund for struggling campuses like Buffalo State, Fredonia, Brockport, and Geneseo.
Liz Altman advocate neutral
President, Friends of the NYS Liberty Partnerships, Inc.
Liz Altman testified on behalf of Liberty Partnerships. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblyman Gandolfo elected_official skeptical
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Gandolfo raised concerns about SUNY procurement practices, noting that contracts often go to out-of-state companies without New York-based workers' compensation insurance. He cited the $37 million Javits Lecture Hall contract at Stony Brook as an example and asked about project labor agreements. He also questioned the SUNY vaccine mandate for students.
Deidra Nesbeth advocate neutral
Director, Fostering Youth Success Initiative
Deidra Nesbeth testified on behalf of the Fostering Youth Success Initiative. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Assemblyman Manktelow elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Assemblyman Manktelow questioned Chancellor King about the SUNY vaccine mandate and its impact on enrollment, asking if it would ever be lifted. He also asked about SUNY's progress on electrification and net-zero buildings, noting that SUNY owns about 40 percent government-owned buildings.
Emily Miles advocate neutral
Executive Director, NYC Alliance Against Sexual Assault
Emily Miles testified on behalf of the NYC Alliance Against Sexual Assault. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Niharika Rao advocate neutral
Lead Organizer, Reproductive Justice Collective New York
Niharika Rao testified on behalf of the Reproductive Justice Collective New York. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Robb Friedlander advocate neutral
Director of Advocacy, Swipe Out Hunger
Robb Friedlander testified on behalf of Swipe Out Hunger. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Dr. Melanie Bernitz academic neutral
Senior Vice President, Columbia Health
Dr. Bernitz testified on behalf of Columbia University health services. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Blair Horner advocate neutral
Executive Director, New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG)
Blair Horner testified on behalf of NYPIRG. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Donna Stelling-Gurnett industry neutral
President, Association of Private Colleges (APC)
Donna Stelling-Gurnett testified on behalf of private colleges. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)
Nicole Livanos industry neutral
Director, State Affairs, National Council of State Boards of Nursing
Nicole Livanos testified on behalf of the National Council of State Boards of Nursing. (Limited testimony details provided in transcript excerpt.)

Senator Engagement (57)

Senator Engagement Stance Focus Areas Summary
Assemblyman Eachus neutral Funding formula stability and enrollment growth One-third/one-third/one-third funding split Long-term budget planning Assemblyman Eachus, a SUNY graduate and former educator, asked about whether fixed budgets would constrain institutions if enrollment surges. He appeared concerned about ensuring sustainable long-term funding mechanisms rather than short-term solutions.
Assemblyman Epstein supportive Funding increase for students with disabilities Dropout rates for students with disabilities For-profit college student outcomes Assemblyman Epstein questioned the rationale for increasing disability support funding from $2 million to $15 million and requested dropout rate data. He expressed ongoing concern about for-profit college practices and requested offline discussion with the commissioner.
Assemblyman Epstein supportive Student dropout data and reasons for attrition Wraparound services Fee elimination Assemblyman Epstein pressed for specific data on why students are leaving higher education, noting that CUNY recovered 16,000 dropped-out students and asking what larger efforts might yield. He appeared frustrated by lack of concrete data and supportive of eliminating fees.
Assemblywoman Clark supportive Community college funding formulas Stable funding mechanisms Impact of austerity on distressed campuses Enrollment and student retention Assemblywoman Clark asked substantive questions about funding formulas and the consequences of underfunding, noting that without operating investment, campuses cannot provide necessary faculty, classrooms, and services. She appeared skeptical of tuition increases as a solution.
Assemblywoman Fahy supportive Community college FTE formula Enrollment growth strategies Distressed campus stabilization Assemblywoman Fahy asked about formula changes and enrollment strategies, appearing supportive of increased funding and concerned about demographic challenges in secondary education.
Assemblywoman Seawright neutral Pay-to-work system for graduate students Stipend levels and fee impacts Assemblywoman Seawright asked detailed questions about the mechanics of the pay-to-work system, seeking to understand average stipends, types of work, and campus variations.
Assemblywoman Wallace supportive Distressed campus funding and economic impact Community economic development Diversity and cultural benefits of regional campuses Tuition increases Assemblywoman Wallace expressed strong support for funding distressed campuses, emphasizing their role as economic and cultural anchors in communities like Brockport, Fredonia, and Geneseo. She opposed tuition increases and appeared concerned about competitiveness.
Sen. Chu unclear Sen. Chu was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Chu supportive Cultural inclusion and religious holidays Representation of Asian and Muslim students Sen. Chu engaged constructively on cultural inclusion issues, highlighting her district's large CUNY population and advocating for recognition of Lunar New Year and Eid as university holidays to reflect student diversity.
Sen. Fahy skeptical High school student engagement and enrollment trends Career and technical education effectiveness P-TECH and Early College High School programs For-profit college oversight and student loan defaults Nursing licensure timelines and out-of-state nurse licensing Pharmacy staffing shortages Chair Fahy of the Higher Ed Committee pressed Commissioner Rosa on data showing declining high school enrollment and its impact on college enrollments. She expressed concern about for-profit college practices, citing a Chalkbeat article on New York's lax oversight, and requested comparison data on whether CTE and P-TECH programs are more effective at student engagement. She also questioned nursing licensure timelines and pharmacy staffing issues.
Sen. Fernandez supportive Part-time TAP expansion Sen. Fernandez was mentioned as a sponsor of a sign-on letter supporting expansion of part-time TAP to proprietary colleges but did not ask questions during the hearing.
Sen. Gounardes unclear Sen. Gounardes was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Gounardes opposed Tuition increases as tax increases SUNY/CUNY funding disparity CUNY budget inadequacy Downstate debt service Sen. Gounardes was highly critical of the Governor's budget proposal, characterizing tuition increases as tax increases and expressing concern about the disparity in funding between SUNY and CUNY. He challenged the chancellors on the adequacy of proposed funding and questioned the fairness of the allocation.
Sen. Gounardes skeptical Affirmative action and Supreme Court cases Legacy admissions practices Early decision admissions Diversity in private institutions Sen. Gounardes posed pointed questions about how independent colleges plan for diversity without race-conscious admissions, expressing concern about legacy admissions and early decision practices as exclusionary mechanisms. He signaled skepticism about CICU's commitment to diversity and indicated intent to follow up on the issue.
Sen. Griffo neutral Committee membership introduction As Senate Higher Education Committee ranking member, Sen. Griffo introduced Republican members present at the hearing.
Sen. Griffo neutral Campus closures or consolidations Nursing and teacher shortages Tuition increases and middle-class impact Workforce development Sen. Griffo asked substantive questions about enrollment challenges, workforce shortages, and the potential regressive impact of tuition increases on middle-class families. He sought concrete information on how the systems plan to address critical workforce gaps.
Sen. Griffo skeptical Proposed transfer of Office of Professions to Department of Health Redundancy and confusion concerns Sen. Griffo questioned why the Governor's proposal to move the Office of Professions to the Department of Health would improve healthcare professional licensing and addressed concerns about redundancy and confusion.
Sen. Griffo supportive BOCES and career/technical education coordination Teacher profession shortages by subject area Sen. Griffo asked about connections between higher education and BOCES programs to ensure student access to career pathways, and inquired about specific teacher shortage areas. His questions suggest support for workforce development initiatives.
Sen. Griffo supportive TAP eligibility increase and income threshold Impact of TAP expansion on enrollment Graduate TAP reinstatement for critical fields Workforce development in nursing, education, and STEM Sen. Griffo asked about expanding TAP eligibility to 24,000 additional families and whether the system could sustain increases. He advocated for reinstating Graduate TAP focused on high-need fields like nursing and education, and emphasized the need for workforce alignment with private sector opportunities.
Sen. Hoylman-Sigal unclear Sen. Hoylman-Sigal was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Jackson unclear Sen. Jackson was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Jackson opposed EOP program cuts Tuition increases and affordability Campus health centers Revenue generation alternatives Sen. Jackson expressed clear opposition to tuition increases and EOP cuts, advocating instead for increased revenue from wealthy New Yorkers and corporate taxes. He emphasized the need for campus health facilities and questioned how to secure adequate resources.
Sen. Krueger neutral Hearing administration Committee procedures As co-chair of the joint hearing, Sen. Krueger managed the hearing procedures, introduced Senate members, and set ground rules for testimony and questioning.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Ph.D. production and labor market outcomes Predatory for-profit colleges and student loss TAP grant policy and accountability SUNY Upstate Hospital patient lawsuits Online program development Chairwoman Krueger demonstrated high engagement with multiple pointed questions about systemic issues including predatory for-profit colleges, TAP grant misuse, and hospital debt collection practices. She requested follow-up data on Ph.D. graduate outcomes and expressed concern about New York's role in funding low-quality institutions.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Proprietary school closures and standards TAP eligibility and student reimbursement Yeshiva oversight and TAP funding Standards for higher education institutions Chairwoman Krueger asked pointed questions about the 26 proprietary school closures, the standards used to close them, TAP reimbursement for students at closed schools, and whether the same standards apply to 52 yeshivas receiving over $32 million in TAP funds annually. She requested detailed lists and standards documentation.
Sen. Krueger skeptical TAP funding for yeshivas Accreditation and oversight of TAP-eligible institutions School closure procedures and student protections Transferability of credits Sen. Krueger asked detailed, probing questions about the 52 yeshivas receiving TAP funds for 7,200 students, seeking clarification on accreditation processes, credit transferability requirements, and whether HESC or SED conducts oversight. She requested a list of the 52 institutions and appeared concerned about accountability mechanisms.
Sen. Krueger neutral Hearing management and procedural oversight Ensuring equitable time allocation for questioners As chair, Sen. Krueger managed the hearing procedurally, allocating three-minute question periods and ensuring orderly testimony. She did not pose substantive questions to testifiers during the portions of the transcript provided.
Sen. Krueger neutral Hearing management and procedural matters Sen. Krueger served as co-chair and managed hearing logistics and speaker order, with minimal substantive questioning of testifiers.
Sen. Krueger neutral Panel management and logistics Sen. Krueger served as co-chair and managed panel transitions, announcing panel composition and requesting quiet in the hearing room.
Sen. Krueger skeptical Nursing licensure compact history Why New York historically opposed compacts Scope of practice and licensing standards Chair Krueger questioned why New York has historically resisted the nursing licensure compact and asked Ms. Livanos to explain what has changed. She indicated she would pursue this line of questioning further at a Health Committee hearing the following day.
Sen. Liu unclear Sen. Liu was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Liu skeptical Tuition and enrollment correlation 60/40 SUNY/CUNY funding parity School of Labor and Urban Studies welcome center Sen. Liu questioned whether tuition increases correlate with enrollment declines and challenged the chancellors on the abandonment of the traditional 60/40 funding split between SUNY and CUNY. He pressed for specific commitments on the School of Labor and Urban Studies project.
Sen. Liu skeptical SUNY program approval delays SED's role in online course approval Institutional responsibility for delays Sen. Liu pressed Commissioner Rosa on whether SUNY must get SED approval for new online courses, suggesting SUNY was deflecting blame for delays. He appeared to conclude that the problem lies with SUNY, not SED, based on the 22-day approval timeline cited.
Sen. Liu supportive 60/40 funding balance between SUNY and CUNY Full-time faculty hiring progress Parity in state investment Sen. Liu asked detailed questions about maintaining the historic 60/40 funding split between SUNY and CUNY, suggesting that if SUNY receives an additional $1 billion, CUNY should receive approximately $667 million to maintain parity. He appeared supportive of both systems and concerned about equity in funding.
Sen. Murray unclear Sen. Murray was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Murray neutral Student retention and brain drain In-state vs. out-of-state enrollment MTA payroll tax impact on community colleges Sen. Murray sought data on student retention rates and in-state enrollment percentages. He raised concerns about the MTA payroll tax burden on community colleges, particularly Suffolk Community College, during a period of financial stress.
Sen. Murray supportive P-TECH six-year program structure College Credit and Career Opportunity Program Regional flexibility in program design Sen. Murray praised NYSED's dedication to BOCES and career training, asked clarifying questions about P-TECH program length and attrition, and expressed interest in the proposed College Credit and Career Opportunity Program's regional approach.
Sen. Murray supportive TAP income threshold increases Regional cost of living variations BOCES and CTE pathway integration College enrollment from vocational programs Sen. Murray advocated for raising TAP income thresholds to account for regional cost of living, suggesting alignment with Excelsior Scholarship levels. She questioned whether BOCES/CTE students are enrolling in college and sought to dispel the false either/or narrative between vocational and college pathways.
Sen. Murray supportive Student retention in New York TAP income threshold expansion Regional median income adjustments Graduate TAP restoration Sen. Murray actively engaged with testifiers about student retention, advocating for raising the TAP threshold and proposing tying it to regional median income rather than a flat $80,000. He framed TAP expansion as an investment rather than spending and expressed support for restoring Graduate TAP for high-need fields like nursing.
Sen. Ra supportive Childcare center expansion on campuses Childcare worker compensation and minimum wage impacts Student enrollment in Assembly district Assemblyman Ra pressed both chancellors on childcare expansion progress and raised concerns about the impact of minimum wage increases on childcare center staffing and affordability. He advocated for state support to offset increased labor costs in childcare facilities at community colleges and SUNY/CUNY institutions.
Sen. Stavisky skeptical Tuition increases and enrollment decline SUNY distressed campuses University hospitals funding CUNY endowment As Senate Higher Education Chair, Sen. Stavisky asked pointed questions about how tuition increases would reverse declining enrollment, particularly during inflationary times. She expressed concern that CUNY was not included in the Governor's transformational budget investments and pressed both chancellors on specific funding needs for distressed campuses and hospitals.
Sen. Stavisky supportive Individual colleges' debt levels Faculty hiring from last year's funding Full-time vs. part-time faculty ratios Adjunct conversions Sen. Stavisky asked detailed questions about institutional debt, faculty composition, and the conversion of adjunct positions to full-time roles. She appeared supportive of the chancellors' efforts and sought specific data on hiring outcomes.
Sen. Stavisky skeptical Campus hate incidents and antisemitism Differential funding for University Centers Sen. Stavisky raised concerns about antisemitism on CUNY campuses and questioned whether enough is being done to address hate incidents. She also sought clarification on funding disparities among University Centers.
Sen. Stavisky supportive Fraudulent nursing diplomas from Florida schools Simulation-based nursing training bill Regents exam question on Israel and Holocaust Computer system modernization timeline Office of Professions staffing and customer service Sen. Stavisky, chair of Higher Ed, questioned Commissioner Rosa extensively on the fraudulent Florida nursing diploma investigation, the proposed simulation-based nursing training bill, and a controversial Regents exam question. She also pressed on the timeline for SED's computer modernization and the need for IT staffing investments.
Sen. Stavisky neutral Unfilled positions in NYSED Program approval timelines and definitions SUNY's historical requests for independent approval authority Sen. Stavisky followed up on program approval processes and timelines, seeking clarification on whether the 22-day figure applies to SUNY or broader institutional requests, and whether SUNY's earlier request for independent approval authority was behind current testimony.
Sen. Stavisky supportive Enhanced Tuition Award program decline Comprehensive Transition Postsecondary program for students with disabilities DREAM Act implementation and utilization TAP eligibility expansion Sen. Stavisky asked pointed questions about the declining ETA program and raised concerns about students with intellectual disabilities not being eligible for TAP. She advocated for HESC to absorb costs for the CTP program and praised the DREAM Act as a success from her committee.
Sen. Stavisky supportive Tuition increases and student affordability Public investment in higher education Reactions to chancellor testimony Sen. Stavisky asked pointed questions about the chancellors' positions on tuition increases, signaling skepticism toward revenue-raising through student fees. She appeared supportive of the union and advocate positions emphasizing public investment over tuition hikes.
Sen. Stavisky supportive College closures and teach-out agreements Student debt levels Nursing simulation bill support Sen. Stavisky asked about declining enrollment and college closures, specifically referencing Cazenovia College. She inquired about student debt levels and expressed concern about institutional closures, showing support for the independent college sector.
Sen. Stavisky supportive Proprietary colleges and their community role Specific institutions (Plaza College, Monroe) Sen. Stavisky praised proprietary colleges for serving niche populations and meeting community needs, specifically mentioning Plaza College's nursing program and Monroe College as examples of good institutions.
Sen. Thomas unclear Sen. Thomas was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Webb unclear Sen. Webb was present but did not ask questions in the transcript excerpt provided.
Sen. Webb opposed Cuts to EOP, CSTEP, STEP programs Community college 20 percent hold-back requirement Workforce development tracking Sen. Webb expressed concern about proposed cuts to opportunity programs while tuition increases are being considered. He questioned why the Department of Budget, rather than CUNY and SUNY, is collecting community college plans and asked how workforce development outcomes are tracked.
Sen. Webb opposed EOP and CSTEP funding reductions Transfer of professions from SED to DOH Sen. Webb expressed concern about reductions to EOP and CSTEP programs, noting his personal experience with these programs. He also questioned the proposed transfer of professions from SED to DOH, seeking to understand the rationale.
Sen. Webb supportive Pay disparity for staff and graduate students Campus police community relations Campus Citizen Review Boards Sen. Webb asked about financial resources for staff and graduate students and inquired about university police efforts to build relationships with underrepresented students. He appeared interested in accountability mechanisms like Campus Citizen Review Boards.
Sen. Webb supportive Student retention rates Program success stories and marketing Career outcomes for underrepresented students Sen. Webb, identifying as a CSTEP and Liberty Partnership alumna, asked about retention data and success rates, particularly for underrepresented students. She advocated for lifting up program success stories and their impact on retention and career connections.
Sen. Webb supportive Food insecurity statistics and scope Student dependency on food pantries Awareness and promotion of support programs Additional supports for sexual assault and reproductive justice programs Sen. Webb asked detailed questions about food insecurity data, expressed concern about raising tuition while students rely on food pantries, and inquired about ways to expand awareness and access to sexual assault and reproductive justice services beyond funding.
Sen. Weinstein supportive SUNY hospital debt service CUNY structural deficit and efficiency measures CUNY antisemitism initiatives CUNY Labor School capital funding and welcome center SUNY hospital nursing shortages and Downstate facility issues Chair Weinstein asked detailed follow-up questions on CUNY's deficit reduction strategies, antisemitism funding allocation, and the Labor School capital project. She expressed concern about nursing shortages at SUNY hospitals and infrastructure issues at Downstate Medical Center, signaling support for increased healthcare worker funding.