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2024-02-14 JOINT LEGISLATIVE HEARING In the Matter of the 2024-2025 EXECUTIVE BUDGET ON HOUSING Chair: Sen. Brian Kavanagh View full transcript → Archive

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NEW YORK STATE HOUSING COMMISSIONER DEFENDS BUDGET AMID LEGISLATIVE SKEPTICISM ON FUNDING GAPS Albany — New York State Homes and Community Renewal Commissioner RuthAnne Visnauskas defended Governor Hochul's 2024-2025 housing budget before joint legislative committees Wednesday, emphasizing the urgency of the state's housing crisis while facing pointed questions from lawmakers about missing funding for established programs. Visnauskas cited alarming data to underscore the crisis: New York City's rental vacancy rate stands at 1.41 percent, the lowest in 56 years, with virtually no availability for units renting below $2,400. A healthy vacancy rate ranges between 5 and 8 percent, she noted. The commissioner reported that the state is on track to create and preserve nearly 40,000 affordable homes in the first two years of the Governor's $25 billion five-year Housing Plan. She highlighted accomplishments including expending all $450 million in American Recovery Act funds to assist 18,000 households, providing $26 million to 24 land banks, and awarding $12 million through a Clean Energy Initiative. However, Assembly Housing Chair Linda Rosenthal and Senate Housing Chair Brian Kavanagh (filling in for Finance Chair Liz Krueger) pressed Visnauskas on significant funding gaps. Rosenthal questioned why the Executive Budget includes no funding for HOPP (Housing Opportunities for People with Pets) or increases for Neighborhood and Rural Preservation Programs, despite their demonstrated success and oversubscription. "Why weren't these programs important enough for the Governor to fund?" Rosenthal asked. Visnauskas responded that the Legislature would need to add such funding. Sen. Kavanagh focused on the vagueness of major initiatives. He questioned the $250 million allocation for repurposing state properties for housing, noting it lacks clear affordability requirements or parameters for the 15,000 units the administration hopes to produce. He also questioned why the Empire State Development Corporation, rather than HCR, would manage the capital allocation, and requested a list of potential sites. On the Pro-Housing Communities program—launched by executive order in July 2023—Kavanagh sought clarity on its legal authority and mechanics. Visnauskas confirmed that 20 localities have been certified so far, with about 100 others in process. She explained that localities must submit annual permit data to maintain certification, effectively creating an ongoing accountability mechanism. Assemblyman Keith Brown, substituting as Housing ranker, raised concerns about SUNY campus housing proposals at Farmingdale and Stony Brook, asking whether the administration had discussed unit counts, eligibility criteria, and local coordination with supervisors. Visnauskas acknowledged she had not been involved in conversations with SUNY leadership about their specific needs. The hearing also surfaced questions about the 421-a tax exemption program, which expired and has not been renewed. Visnauskas confirmed that 70 percent of the 70,000 units produced between 2010 and 2020 utilized the exemption, and that its absence has contributed to a significant drop in rental housing permits in 2023. The hearing was the 13th and final in a series of joint fiscal committee hearings on the Governor's proposed budget. Additional testimony from housing advocates, industry representatives, and tenant organizations was scheduled to follow. NEW YORK — Housing Commissioner Visnauskas defended the Governor's 2024-2025 housing budget proposal before a joint legislative committee Wednesday, fielding pointed questions about rent-stabilized housing maintenance, tenant protections, and the state's new Pro-Housing Community certification program. The commissioner announced a $40 million "Resilient and Ready" program to help homeowners make flood-mitigation improvements, responding to criticism from Sen. Helming about slow state response to July flooding in Ontario County that left many residents ineligible for federal assistance. On rent-stabilized housing, Visnauskas acknowledged a dramatic decline in major capital improvement applications over five years but resisted calls for stronger intervention, saying HCR has not seen a corresponding rise in housing code violations. Assemblyman Ra cited New York City's latest housing vacancy survey showing the first increase in 35 years in dilapidated conditions in rent-stabilized units, and questioned whether the $15,000 cap on improvements over 15 years made sense given building age and maintenance needs. Sen. Myrie emphasized tenant protections, citing Comptroller DiNapoli's report showing evictions up 180 percent since the pandemic moratorium ended but still 27 percent below pre-pandemic levels due to the Housing Stability and Tenant Protection Act. He raised concerns about the lack of capital funding for NYCHA in the executive budget. The commissioner detailed the Pro-Housing Community program, which conditions discretionary state grants on municipal certification. Twenty communities have been certified so far, with approximately 100 more in process. Sen. Hoylman-Sigal pressed on enforcement, asking whether the state could claw back grants if localities failed to meet commitments. Visnauskas said the program uses incentives, not penalties, but localities must submit ongoing data to remain certified or lose eligibility for future rounds. On a proposed new tax abatement for rental construction (485-x), Visnauskas acknowledged that key details—including the level of abatement and affordability requirements—remain to be negotiated with New York City, prompting Assemblyman Dilan to question whether the Legislature would be voting on a proposal without knowing specifics. Visnauskas also disclosed that HCR is hiring approximately 30 additional people to address a backlog of rent overcharge complaints, citing challenges with civil service hiring processes. Sen. Salazar asked what the Legislature could do to help; Visnauskas said the agency is working with the Department of Civil Service to adjust job classifications to attract more applicants. The hearing was interrupted briefly by protesters objecting to the testimony process, but Chairwoman Weinstein clarified that all individuals and organizations that submitted testimony according to posted rules were listed to testify, and those who failed to submit could do so in writing by end of day. NEW YORK STATE HOUSING BUDGET HEARING HIGHLIGHTS TENSIONS OVER AFFORDABILITY, SUPPLY, AND COMMUNITY CONTROL A joint legislative hearing on the 2024-2025 Executive Budget revealed sharp disagreements between state housing officials and lawmakers over how to address New York's affordability crisis, with particular tension over whether building more housing or ensuring affordability should take priority. Housing and Community Renewal Commissioner Visnauskus defended the Governor's proposed $500 million RUSH program to develop 15,000 housing units on state-owned property, emphasizing that increased housing supply is the primary tool to relieve pressure on the market. However, multiple legislators challenged this approach, arguing that supply-side solutions alone will not help low-income New Yorkers if new units remain unaffordable. Sen. Cleare (D-Manhattan) made the strongest case for direct state housing development, noting that over 50 percent of her district pays more than 30 percent of income in rent, with median incomes of just $43,000 in New York City and $53,000 statewide for Black communities. "Never has anyone walked into my office and said you've got to get us some more luxury housing," she said, calling for a return to the Mitchell-Lama model of state-developed housing rather than relying on private developers. Assemblyman Braunstein (D-Queens) raised concerns about the Creedmoor site, noting that ESDC proposed 2,800 units in eight-story buildings despite community recommendations for 1,000 units of varied types. He questioned whether future RUSH projects would similarly override local zoning through General Project Plans without genuine community agreement. Sen. Borrello (R-Cattaraugus) challenged the state's $3 billion rent assistance program, citing a Politico report and saying the state did a "pretty poor job" verifying hardship, with property owners reporting tenants who could pay simply stopped paying rent. He also raised concerns about workforce housing projects losing their designation due to inflation during development timelines. Assemblywoman Tapia (D-Bronx) highlighted source-of-income discrimination against voucher holders and criticized new buildings in her district requiring $107,000 minimum income for studios in a neighborhood with $39,000 median income, calling it "fostering gentrification." The Commissioner acknowledged the state allocates $2 million for fair housing testing and noted HCR achieved 29 percent MWBE contracting last year, exceeding 60 percent in procurement. He also disclosed that of 40,000 affordable homes created or preserved, about 10,000 are new and over 20,000 are preserved. The hearing, held Feb. 14 before the Senate Finance Committee, underscored the challenge of balancing housing supply with affordability and community input in New York's ongoing housing crisis. NEW YORK — Housing Commissioner Visnauskas defended the Hochul administration's supply-focused approach to the state's affordable housing crisis at a joint legislative budget hearing Wednesday, arguing that building 800,000 units over the next decade—double the prior decade's output—is essential to addressing affordability. But lawmakers and housing advocates pushed back, with several testifiers arguing that supply alone cannot solve the immediate crisis facing cost-burdened renters and deteriorating affordable housing stock. The hearing on the 2024-2025 Executive Budget revealed sharp disagreements over housing strategy. While Visnauskas cited 18 Gowanus projects that will create 5,000 units including 1,400 permanently affordable units, Assemblywoman Kelles countered that new construction takes years—citing a 47-year national average for the full development process—while renters face eviction today. "We can walk and chew gum at the same time," she said, urging support for immediate relief measures including expanded Housing Access Voucher Programs and renter protections. Assemblyman Taylor expressed frustration over conditions at Mitchell-Lama properties, describing a $150 million capital improvement project at Esplanade Gardens where residents lack adequate electricity and have brown water, despite rent increases. "The sun is setting on a lot of their lives, and they can't even stay there anymore," he said. Advocates testified on multiple fronts. The New York State Association for Affordable Housing requested $250 million for an affordable housing relief fund to address pandemic-related financial distress, while the Neighborhood Preservation Coalition opposed a proposed $4.8 million budget cut to the Neighborhood Preservation Program, warning it would harm frontline workers. The Community Preservation Corporation cited a 51 percent statewide renter cost burden and called for restoration of the expired 421-a tax credit through legislation 485-x. Insurance discrimination emerged as a bipartisan concern. Multiple testifiers, including public housing authority directors, urged passage of legislation prohibiting insurers from discriminating against affordable housing properties or Section 8 voucher holders. Per-unit insurance premiums have increased 17 percent annually since 2020, a 50 percent jump from pre-pandemic rates, according to CPC. The hearing also featured testimony supporting legalization of basement apartments in New York City. Sylvia Morse of Basement Apartments Safe for Everyone urged passage of Article VII, Part S, noting that current Multiple Dwelling Law requirements create prohibitive conversion costs—six figures in the East New York pilot—that prevent safety upgrades in units housing tens of thousands of New Yorkers, particularly in communities of color. She cited 11 deaths in subgrade units during Hurricane Ida. Sen. Kavanagh clarified that New York City has not yet applied for Pro-Housing Community status, which would make it ineligible for programs like the Downtown Revitalization Initiative unless it demonstrates commitment to removing housing development barriers. He also established that the state's 40,000 vacant apartments—4 percent of stock—align with the historic 5 percent threshold for declaring a housing emergency, suggesting current vacancy levels are not abnormal despite some warehousing concerns. NEW YORK — Housing advocates and legal services providers testified before the state Legislature on Wednesday that proposed budget cuts to affordable housing programs and legal services would undermine efforts to address the state's housing crisis, while also raising concerns about the feasibility of the Governor's basement apartment legalization proposal. The joint Finance Committee hearing on the 2024-2025 Executive Budget revealed deep disagreements over housing policy priorities. Advocates for the Homeowner Protection Program, which provides legal services and housing counseling, called for full restoration of $40 million in funding after the Governor's budget proposed eliminating it. Jay Inwald of Legal Services NYC criticized the characterization of HOPP as merely a "legislative add," calling it an annual exercise that forces advocates to repeatedly fight for funding that should be permanent. Christie Peale of the Center for New York City Neighborhoods testified that HOPP serves 15,000 families annually and has served 120,000 over more than a decade, saving the state $1.2 billion annually in property value preservation and taxes. She noted that 75 percent of HOPP clients in New York City are people of color, making the program a racial justice issue. Randy Dillard of the Right to Counsel Coalition called for $260 million in state funding to implement statewide right to counsel for tenants facing eviction under bill S2721. He cited data showing that after right to counsel was implemented in New York City in 2017, 84 percent of represented tenants stayed in their homes, evictions dropped 40 percent, and landlord lawsuits decreased 30 percent. Assemblyman Braunstein raised significant concerns about the Governor's basement apartment legalization proposal, questioning whether it adequately addresses safety regulations, noting that conversion costs estimated at $300,000 to $500,000 per unit are prohibitive, and pointing out that the proposal would subsidize illegal landlords while prohibiting legal homeowners from converting basement apartments. Ms. Morse of the BASE program responded that the Multiple Dwelling Law drives up costs and that New York City's Building and Housing Maintenance Codes provide adequate safety regulation. Mark Streb of the Neighborhood Preservation Coalition testified that a proposed $30,000 cut to each of approximately 134 NPCs would eliminate 20-30 hours of weekly staff work per organization, representing a 33-34 percent funding reduction during a housing crisis. He noted that last year marked the first funding increase after decades of flat funding. The hearing also addressed the Emergency Rental Assistance Program, with Mr. Simmons of the Syracuse Housing Authority noting that the program helped address $2.3 million in arrears in Syracuse and allowed families previously prohibited from public housing to access it. The committee heard testimony on multiple housing initiatives including affordable housing relief funds, 421-a tax credit reforms, and legal services expansion, with advocates generally supportive of the Governor's proposals but seeking additional funding and modifications to address implementation concerns. NEW YORK — Tenant advocates and legal services providers testified before the Senate Finance Committee on February 14 that a proposed housing package being negotiated at leadership level is 'totally unacceptable,' warning that it would reimpose vacancy decontrol protections and leave millions of unregulated tenants without basic eviction defenses. Michael McKee, treasurer of the Tenants Political Action Committee, told lawmakers that the package includes three problematic provisions: a watered-down version of good-cause eviction, another iteration of the failed 421-a tax credit program, and a 'CHIP/REBNY vacancy reset bill' that he characterized as 'a wolf in sheep's clothing' that would harm long-term rent-stabilized tenants. 'It took us 25 years to repeal vacancy decontrol; we are not about to sit silent while it gets reimposed,' McKee said, noting that approximately 1.6 million unregulated tenants statewide would be left unprotected under the proposed language. McKee also urged oversight hearings into the implementation of ETPA-Upstate New York in Kingston and Newburgh, describing 'mass confusion' and landlord misconduct in Kingston, where seven families—six of them Black—were evicted from a building despite being technically protected by the law, because they could not afford lawyers. However, Sen. Brian Kavanagh pushed back, stating: 'There is not at this point a bill that's being cooked up that I'm aware of that includes the elements that you referred to.' He expressed concern about the budget process where programs are zeroed out in January and then restored. Testifiers also praised a new social housing development authority bill introduced by Sen. Cordell Cleare and Assemblymember Emily Gallagher, which McKee called 'a new Mitchell-Lama program.' McKee cited Vienna's social housing model, where 62 percent of residents live in some form of social housing with rents around 600 euros ($650). Legal services providers testified about the critical need for right to counsel protections and adequate funding. Randy Dillard requested $260 million to support lawyers, organizers, and administrative infrastructure for a statewide right to counsel program. Jacob Inwald of Legal Services NYC emphasized that preserving homeownership through foreclosure defense is essential to preventing gentrification and the loss of affordable housing. Sen. Jackson expressed strong support for right to counsel, stating it 'should be for everyone going into the courts.' Sen. Cleare raised concerns about gentrification in his Harlem district and the exodus of Black residents from New York State, asking what legislative solutions could preserve diverse communities. The hearing highlighted deep divisions over housing policy, with tenant advocates demanding strong protections and legal services funding, while some lawmakers expressed skepticism about the scope and feasibility of proposed reforms. NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURE HEARS HOUSING CRISIS TESTIMONY; LABOR, DEVELOPERS, ADVOCATES CLASH ON SOLUTIONS Albany — A joint legislative budget committee hearing on New York's 2024-2025 housing budget revealed deep divisions over how to address the state's affordability crisis, with labor unions and housing advocates largely supporting the Governor's tax incentive proposals while some nonprofits warned against prioritizing market-rate development. The hearing, held Feb. 14, featured six panels of testifiers addressing the expiration of the 421-a tax incentive program in 2022, which caused residential construction projections in New York City to plummet from 30,000 to 11,000 units annually. The Governor's proposed 485-x replacement program would save over 33,000 rental units currently in the pipeline, according to the New York Building Congress. Manny Pastreich of 32BJ SEIU, representing nearly 100,000 working New Yorkers, painted a stark picture of the labor crisis: approximately 13,000 of his members live outside New York City with commutes exceeding one hour, and a few hundred live in Pennsylvania with two-hour commutes. He cited data showing that from 2010 to 2020, New York City's population increased by 630,000 residents and gained a million jobs, but housing stock grew by only 200,000 units. "That's literally the definition of demand overwhelming supply," Pastreich said. The panelists largely agreed on the need for an "all-tools approach" combining supply-side solutions, tenant protections, and rental assistance. Annemarie Gray of Open New York advocated for state-level zoning reforms, noting that New York's 1.4 percent apartment vacancy rate is the lowest in over 50 years. Bria Donohue of the American Institute of Architects highlighted office-to-residential conversions as a key opportunity, noting that extending the Multiple Dwelling Law eligibility date from 1961 to 1990 would open approximately 120 million square feet of office space for conversion. However, Emily Goldstein of the Association for Neighborhood and Housing Development broke ranks, opposing the 485-x replacement, arguing it primarily uses public resources for market-rate housing rather than affordable units. She emphasized that many nonprofit affordable housing buildings still carry pandemic-era rental arrears. Sen. Myrie pressed panelists on whether the Legislature could simultaneously address housing supply, zoning restrictions, and tenant protections. All agreed it was feasible. Sen. Martins of Nassau County pushed back against the term "exclusionary zoning," arguing that some economically challenged communities prefer market-rate development in their downtowns. Assemblywoman Rosenthal raised concerns about 213,000 eviction filings statewide in the previous year, questioning whether supply-focused solutions adequately address immediate tenant needs. Panelists responded by advocating for right-to-counsel legislation, good-cause eviction protections, and a Housing Access Voucher Program. New York State legislators heard urgent testimony Wednesday on the state's deepening housing crisis, with advocates calling for billions in new funding and policy changes to address evictions, homelessness, and deteriorating public housing conditions. At a joint Finance Committee hearing on the 2024-2025 Executive Budget, testifiers presented stark data: housing prices have surged 40 percent since the pandemic, New York ranks second nationally for homelessness, and nearly 200,000 eviction filings occurred in 2022. Research presented by the NAACP Legal Defense Fund documented severe racial disparities, finding Black New Yorkers are 4.6 times more likely to face eviction threats than white residents, and counties with higher Black renter populations experience dramatically higher eviction rates. Barbara Williams, a 33-year public housing resident in Washington Heights, delivered emotional testimony about uninhabitable conditions in NYCHA buildings, describing apartments with no kitchens, black mold, and roach infestations. She requested $4.5 billion in state capital repairs to preserve 40,000 public housing units, noting that 800 residents at her development face eviction for rent arrears because public housing residents were excluded from pandemic aid. Advocates pushed for passage of good-cause eviction protections, the Housing Access Voucher Program, and increased funding for fair housing testing—requesting an increase from $2 million to $8 million annually. Rural housing representatives testified that the Governor's budget cuts funding for programs serving rural communities, including the Rural Preservation Program and USDA 515 preservation efforts. They warned that approximately 15,000 rural households could lose their homes as USDA mortgages expire. Sen. Kavanagh and Sen. May, chair of the Legislative Commission on Rural Resources, engaged substantively with testifiers, with May stating she is "fighting to put these programs back in the budget." The hearing underscored deep divisions between the Legislature and Governor Hochul's administration on housing priorities, with advocates criticizing the Governor for catering to real estate interests while residents face displacement and homelessness. The New York State Senate Finance Committee concluded its 2024-2025 Executive Budget hearings on February 14, with housing policy as the final topic under review. The hearing highlighted a geographic divide in housing needs, with Assemblywoman Rosenthal emphasizing that while much discussion centered on New York City's housing challenges, rural and upstate communities face equally pressing struggles to maintain affordable housing and remain economically viable. Rosenthal pledged to advocate for increased funding for housing support across all regions of the state, signaling legislative intent to address housing affordability beyond urban centers. The hearing was chaired by Chairwoman Helene Weinstein, with Sen. Kavanagh serving as cochair. Weinstein thanked Sen. Liz Krueger for her work coordinating all budget hearings, along with Assemblyman Ra and Sen. O'Mara for their participation. The conclusion of the housing hearing marked the end of the full budget hearing cycle for the 2024-2025 Executive Budget. The transcript excerpt does not include substantive testimony from the housing panel itself, focusing instead on closing remarks from legislators.

Topic Summary

Joint legislative hearing on Governor Hochul's 2024-2025 Executive Budget housing proposals. Commissioner RuthAnne Visnauskas testified on the state's $25 billion five-year Housing Plan, highlighting the critical housing shortage in New York City (1.41% vacancy rate, lowest in 56 years) and the administration's initiatives including the Pro-Housing Communities program, state property repurposing for housing, tax incentives for rental and office conversion housing, and basement apartment legalization.

Testimony (63)

RuthAnne Visnauskas agency_official informational
Commissioner & CEO, New York State Homes and Community Renewal
Commissioner Visnauskas presented the Governor's housing agenda, emphasizing the critical shortage of housing in New York State. She highlighted that NYC's rental vacancy rate stands at 1.41%, the lowest in 56 years, with functional zero availability for units below $2,400. She reported that the state is on track to create and preserve nearly 40,000 affordable homes in the first two years of the $25 billion five-year Housing Plan. Key initiatives include the Pro-Housing Communities program (20 localities certified so far), $500 million for repurposing state properties for housing, tax incentives for rental housing and office conversions, and basement apartment legalization.
Commissioner Visnauskas agency_official informational
Division of Homes and Community Renewal (HCR)
Commissioner Visnauskas presented the Executive Budget's housing proposals, including a $40 million Resilient and Ready program for flood mitigation, a new tax abatement for rental construction (485-x), the Pro-Housing Community certification program, and plans to repurpose state-owned properties for housing. He discussed challenges with rent-stabilized housing maintenance, financing options for buildings, and coordination with New York City on housing initiatives.
Commissioner Visnauskas agency_official informational
New York State Housing and Community Renewal (HCR)
Commissioner Visnauskas provided testimony on the state's housing initiatives, including the proposed $500 million RUSH program to develop 15,000 housing units on state-owned property, efforts to combat source-of-income discrimination through fair housing testing, and the agency's focus on increasing housing supply as the primary tool to address affordability. He discussed financing programs for affordable housing, Mitchell-Lama support, and the state's spending of federal dollars on affordable housing.
Commissioner Visnauskas agency_official informational
New York State Housing and Community Renewal (HCR)
Commissioner presented the administration's housing budget priorities, emphasizing supply-side solutions and the need to build 800,000 units over 10 years versus the 400,000 built in the prior decade. Discussed the Homeowner Stabilization Fund targeting high-distress areas, MWBE contractor participation, and the Pro-Housing Community program incentivizing local zoning reform. Defended the focus on supply as the primary solution to housing affordability.
Assemblywoman Rosenthal elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Rosenthal questioned whether testifiers had conversations with the Governor about funding needs and expressed concern that the Legislature should not have to annually restore funding. She concluded by stating that denying groups adequate funding to keep people housed is 'insane.'
Michael McKee advocate opposed
Tenants Political Action Committee
McKee testified against a proposed housing package being negotiated at leadership level, calling it 'totally unacceptable.' He opposed the CHIP/REBNY vacancy reset bill as a form of vacancy decontrol that would harm long-term tenants, criticized a watered-down version of good-cause eviction, and opposed another iteration of the 421-a tax credit program. He commended the social housing development authority bill by Sen. Cleare and Assemblymember Gallagher as a new Mitchell-Lama program and urged oversight hearings on ETPA implementation failures in Kingston and Newburgh.
Megan Wylie industry supportive
New York Building Congress, Director of Government Relations
Wylie testified on behalf of the Building Congress representing over 500 constituent organizations and 250,000 skilled tradespeople. She supported the Governor's Executive Budget proposals including extending the 421-a tax incentive program, removing FAR caps, streamlining environmental reviews, and converting commercial space to residential. She emphasized that the loss of 421-a in 2022 caused residential construction projections in NYC to drop from 30,000 to 11,000 units annually. She advocated for the 485-x replacement program and highlighted the importance of labor-developer cooperation.
Rashida Tyler advocate supportive
Interfaith Affordable Housing Collaborative; Partnership of Faith-Based Affordable Housing and Community Development; New York State Council of Churches
Tyler testified in support of the Faith-Based Affordable Housing Act, which would allow faith-based organizations to develop affordable housing on their properties (up to 3 stories outside NYC, 5 stories in NYC). She highlighted the deepening housing crisis post-pandemic, noting that housing prices have increased 40 percent in three years, New York State ranks second nationally for homelessness, and 212,000 eviction filings occurred last year. She emphasized that faith-based institutions face economic pressures with over 50 percent of pastors reporting negative impacts on congregations.
Assemblywoman Rosenthal elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Rosenthal acknowledged testimony from panelists about housing struggles across New York State, noting that while much discussion centered on New York City, rural and upstate communities also require significant resources. She committed to fighting for increased funding for housing support across all regions of the state.
Assemblywoman Linda B. Rosenthal elected_official skeptical
Chair, Assembly Housing Committee
Assemblywoman Rosenthal questioned the Commissioner on several funding gaps and program details. She pressed on the lack of HOPP funding in the Executive Budget, the expiration of the 421-a tax exemption and its impact on housing production, the vagueness of the Pro-Housing Communities program details, the absence of Mitchell-Lama capital funding, the decline in rent-stabilized unit registrations, and the reduction in funding for Neighborhood and Rural Preservation Programs despite their demonstrated success.
Jolie Milstein advocate supportive
New York State Association for Affordable Housing (NYSAFAH)
Milstein testified on behalf of 400+ member organizations involved in affordable housing financing, construction, and operation. Requested $250 million for an affordable housing relief fund to address pandemic-related financial distress, support for insurance discrimination prohibition, a three-year Scaffold Law pilot carve-out for affordable housing, and restoration of an as-of-right tax benefit to replace the expired 421-a abatement.
Mark Streb advocate supportive
Neighborhood Preservation Coalition
Streb testified that NPC reaches out annually to the Department of Budget and HCR starting in November/December to advocate for funding. He emphasized the difficulty this uncertainty creates for organizations providing services on the ground.
Jacob Inwald advocate supportive
Legal Services NYC
Inwald testified about homeowner protection services provided by Legal Services NYC, focusing on foreclosure defense and deed theft cases affecting seniors and communities of color. He emphasized that the HOPP network is critical for preventing foreclosures and preserving affordable housing, noting that cases are resource-intensive and scams are constantly evolving. He discussed the importance of right to counsel and pay parity for legal services.
Manny Pastreich labor supportive
32BJ SEIU, Representative
Pastreich testified on behalf of nearly 100,000 working New Yorkers in 32BJ SEIU, emphasizing that essential workers struggle to find affordable housing near their jobs. He cited that NYC's population increased by 630,000 residents from 2010-2020 while the city gained a million jobs but only 200,000 housing units. He advocated for extending 421-a completion deadlines, new tax abatements, commercial-to-residential conversions, lifting FAR caps, strong tenant protections, a Housing Access Voucher Program, and right to counsel. He noted that approximately 13,000 of his members live outside NYC with commutes over one hour, and a few hundred live in Pennsylvania with two-hour commutes.
Patrick Boyle advocate supportive
Enterprise Community Partners
Boyle testified on behalf of Enterprise Community Partners, expressing support for the Housing Access Voucher Program, the Governor's insurance discrimination language, and increased funding for fair housing testing. He highlighted that the Fair Housing Testing Network and Opportunity Program launched last year with $2 million funding six organizations, but requested an increase to $8 million annually. He also supported the Supportive Housing Network's request for $32 million and the Rural Housing Coalition's request for $25 million for USDA 515 housing preservation, noting over 20,000 units face expiring affordability protections.
Sen. Brian Kavanagh elected_official skeptical
Chair, Senate Housing Committee (filling in for Chair Liz Krueger)
Sen. Kavanagh asked detailed questions about Mitchell-Lama funding status, the Pro-Housing Communities program mechanics and legal authority, the RUSH program for state property repurposing, and the $250 million allocation structure. He pressed for clarity on program parameters, questioned why ESD rather than HCR would manage the $250 million capital allocation, and requested lists of potential sites for state property conversion.
Mark Streb advocate opposed
Neighborhood Preservation Coalition
Streb opposed the Governor's proposed budget reduction to the Neighborhood Preservation Program, requesting $18.34 million (a 4 percent increase) plus a $260,000 carveout. Criticized the proposed cut of $4.8 million from last year's $17.63 million allocation, arguing it would harm frontline not-for-profit housing workers providing essential services including housing counseling, home improvement, and eviction protection.
Unnamed testifier (Ms. Milstein) advocate supportive
NYSAFAH
Milstein testified about early outreach to the Governor's office and HCR, beginning at the end of the previous legislative session. She emphasized ongoing engagement over six months with the second floor and HCR staff.
Erica Zimny advocate supportive
Access Alliance (representing member legal services organizations)
Zimny testified on behalf of the Access Alliance, a coalition of legal services organizations statewide. She discussed efforts to build the pipeline of attorneys through law school partnerships, internships, and fellowships, and noted that raising salaries is necessary to attract qualified candidates. She indicated willingness to discuss mental health supportive housing support offline with legislators.
Bria Donohue industry supportive
American Institute of Architects New York, Senior Manager of Government Affairs
Donohue testified on behalf of AIA New York representing over 5,000 architects and design professionals. She focused on office-to-residential conversions, identifying three key barriers: the 12 FAR cap limiting residential buildings, lack of tax incentive benefits for conversions, and restrictions in the Multiple Dwelling Law limiting conversions to buildings built before 1961. She advocated for ELFA Part Q to raise FAR caps, ELFA Part R to authorize tax incentives for conversions, and amending the Multiple Dwelling Law to extend the eligible date from 1961 to 1990, which would open approximately 120 million square feet of office space for conversion.
Dr. Sandhya Kajeepeta academic supportive
NAACP Legal Defense Fund, Thurgood Marshall Institute
Dr. Kajeepeta presented original research on racial disparities in evictions in New York State, supporting good-cause eviction legislation. Her analysis of census and Statewide Eviction Dashboard data found that Black New Yorkers are 4.6 times as likely as white New Yorkers to report being threatened with eviction. She documented that counties with higher Black renter populations face disproportionately higher eviction rates, with a 10 percentage-point increase in Black renters associated with a 55 percent increase in total eviction filings and 33 percent increase in holdover evictions.
Assemblyman Keith P. Brown elected_official skeptical
Substitute ranker on Housing (filling in for Assemblyman Fitzpatrick)
Assemblyman Brown asked rapid-fire questions about SUNY campus housing at Farmingdale and Stony Brook, including unit counts, eligibility criteria, local coordination, and mixing with student populations. He also questioned SEQR review eliminations in the budget, transit-oriented development language in Pro-Housing program, the mandatory vs. discretionary nature of Pro-Housing certification requirements, and the Blue Buffers Buyout Program mechanics.
Erin Burns-Maine advocate supportive
Community Preservation Corporation (CPC)
Burns-Maine testified on behalf of CPC, expressing support for the Governor's Pro-Housing Community program and insurance discrimination prohibition. Highlighted the severity of the affordable housing crisis, citing rising insurance costs and deferred maintenance issues. Called for restoration of an as-of-right tax incentive for multifamily housing (485-x) to replace the expired 421-a program.
Unnamed testifier (Mr. Simmons) agency_official supportive
Executive Director, Syracuse Housing Authority
Simmons noted close work with HCR over five years and mentioned that some monies remain from a $250 million allocation. He highlighted large transformative projects in Buffalo and Syracuse that will need future funding.
Christie Peale advocate supportive
Not explicitly stated; appears to be housing advocacy organization
Peale testified in support of the End Toxic House Flipping Act (S1569A), arguing it would deter speculative flipping that displaces families from affordable rental units and preserve owner-occupant housing. She advocated for revenue from short-term flips to be returned to communities through affordable homeownership programs, community land trusts, and social housing approaches, noting the loss of tens of thousands of BIPOC homeowners through foreclosure, gentrification, and deed theft schemes.
Rachel Fee advocate supportive
New York Housing Conference, Executive Director
Fee testified that New York's housing vacancy rate has dropped to the lowest in decades and finding affordable homes is nearly impossible. She advocated for a comprehensive housing supply framework including transit-oriented development, tax incentives, and rental assistance. She emphasized that without a 421-a replacement, affordable housing development is only viable in lowest-income neighborhoods, undermining Mayor Adams' City of Yes zoning amendment. She supported the Housing Access Voucher Program and noted that a third of renters in affordable housing owed more than two months in rent based on analysis of 52,000 units.
Barbara Williams public opposed
Community Voices Heard; resident of public housing in Washington Heights
Williams testified as a 33-year public housing resident and president of her resident association about deteriorating conditions in NYCHA housing. She described apartments with no kitchens, no walls, black mold, roach infestations, and falling bathroom ceilings. She noted that the Polo Grounds development, constructed in 1968, has never had its piping updated despite a requirement for updates every 20 years. She reported that 800 residents at Polo Grounds face eviction for rent arrears because public housing residents were excluded from pandemic aid. She requested $4.5 billion in state funding for public housing capital repairs to preserve 40,000 units.
William Simmons advocate supportive
New York State Public Housing Authority Directors Association (NYSPHADA)
Simmons requested $150 million for public housing authorities outside New York City for substantial and moderate rehabilitation and demolition/replacement projects. Noted that authorities have utilized over $250 million in the last five years for modernization and listed 21 authorities that have undergone renovations. Expressed strong support for legislation prohibiting insurance discrimination against affordable housing.
Senator Kavanagh elected_official neutral
New York State Senate
Kavanagh asked detailed questions about the affordable housing relief fund, COVID-related arrears, and why existing HCR programs are inadequate. He sought clarification on the proposed $250 million capital funding pool structure.
Randy Dillard advocate supportive
Right to Counsel movement (implied from context)
Dillard testified about the importance of right to counsel, sharing his personal story of fighting the system. He advocated for $260 million in funding to support lawyers, organizers, and administrative infrastructure for a right to counsel program statewide.
Annemarie Gray advocate supportive
Open New York, Executive Director
Gray testified that New York's housing crisis is rooted in insufficient home construction. She noted that nearly 1.4 percent of apartments in NYC are vacant and available for rent—the lowest in over 50 years. She argued that the Governor's proposals are positive but insufficient, advocating for an 'all of the above' approach including incentives, subsidies, vouchers, tax tools, and tenant protections. She emphasized that New York's unique allowance of local governments to ban housing growth perpetuates segregation and exclusion. She advocated for state-level zoning reforms and highlighted the Faith-Based Affordable Housing Act as an important step.
Jennifer Hernandez advocate opposed
Make the Road New York
Hernandez testified on behalf of Make the Road New York, a 25-year-old immigrant and working-class advocacy organization. She criticized Governor Hochul for catering to real estate interests and called for passage of good-cause eviction protections, the Housing Access Voucher Program, and the Invest In Our New York tax proposal. She argued that millions of people remain excluded from tenant protections and safety-net programs, and that families are being displaced due to rising rents and lack of repairs.
Sylvia Morse advocate supportive
Basement Apartments Safe for Everyone (BASE)
Morse testified in support of Article VII, Part S legislation to enable New York City to legalize existing basement and cellar dwelling units. Argued that basement apartments house tens of thousands of New Yorkers in majority-people-of-color areas with high rent burden. Explained how current Multiple Dwelling Law requirements create prohibitive conversion costs and prevent safety upgrades, citing the East New York pilot program where MDL drove costs up by six figures, barring two-thirds of applicants.
Ms. Milstein advocate informational
NYSAFAH
Milstein explained that during COVID, revenues declined while expenses rose due to supply chain problems, rising interest rates, and insurance costs. She described the proposed affordable housing relief fund as a forgivable loan over 10 years with per-unit and per-building caps, designed to help buildings experiencing COVID-related distress reach regularly scheduled recapitalization.
Emily Goldstein advocate opposed
Association for Neighborhood and Housing Development (ANHD), Director of Organizing and Advocacy
Goldstein testified on behalf of ANHD, expressing support for the Displacement Alert Project, emergency preservation funding for rental arrears in nonprofit affordable housing, addressing insurance discrimination, right to counsel statewide, and legalization of basement apartments. However, she explicitly opposed the 421-a replacement proposals (485-x), arguing that they primarily use public resources for market-rate housing rather than affordable housing. She emphasized that many affordable housing buildings still carry pandemic-era arrears and that nonprofit developers operate on slim margins.
Mike Borges advocate opposed
Rural Housing Coalition of New York
Borges testified that the Governor's Executive Budget cut funding for multiple rural housing programs including RESTORE, Access to Home, Rural Preservation Program, and Small Rental Development Initiative. He highlighted a Marist poll showing 73 percent of New Yorkers believe housing affordability is a major concern and 71 percent believe the state is not providing enough resources. He requested $25 million for USDA 515 housing preservation, noting that approximately 15,000 rural households could lose their homes as USDA 515 mortgages expire and affordability protections are lost.
Assemblyman Epstein elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Epstein asked about permanent affordability requirements exceeding 12 FAR for MIH, labor standards for 421-a, and the BASE program. He questioned whether existing city authority makes state budget action necessary.
Lori Bellingham advocate opposed
Adirondack Foundation
Bellingham testified about housing challenges in the Adirondack region, noting that approximately 44 percent of the population are ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed) individuals and families, and nearly 60 percent struggle to earn enough for stable housing. She reported that seasonal housing constitutes 24 percent of housing units (up to 70 percent in some communities) and that in Clinton and Franklin counties, 50 percent of families live in rent-burdened households. She noted median household income increased 15 percent between 2015-2020 while median home prices increased 28 percent, and requested state investment of $3.3 million for public-private partnerships.
Ms. Milstein advocate supportive
NYSAFAH
Milstein expressed support for permanent affordability requirements and returning autonomy to New York City over land use, though noted they haven't examined specific criteria.
Blair Sebastian advocate opposed
New York State Rural Advocates
Sebastian testified about the importance of the Rural Preservation Program (RPP), which provides organizational capacity for rural housing and community development work. He noted that in FY 2024, the Legislature restored RPP borrowing power to 2000 levels, but the Governor's budget proposes returning it to historic lower levels. He requested funding at $7.86 million annually and discussed rural homelessness as an invisible but significant problem, including families living in partitioned mobile homes and individuals living in barns and abandoned buildings.
Ms. Burns-Maine advocate supportive
CPC
Burns-Maine expressed support for the current FAR cap proposal and willingness to engage in detailed conversations about labor standards and 421-a implementation. She noted that 51 percent of HPD's pipeline last year was 421-a housing starts.
Ms. Morse advocate informational
BASE program
Morse explained that the East New York pilot revealed barriers to basement conversions in two- and three-family homes under the Multiple Dwelling Law. She testified that conversion costs are double in two- and three-family homes compared to single-family homes.
Senator Comrie elected_official skeptical
New York State Senate
Comrie asked about ADU conversion categories, costs, and the success rate of the East New York pilot. He raised concerns about a $15,000 cap for rent-stabilized unit rehabilitation and asked about minority developer engagement.
Ms. Morse advocate informational
BASE program
Morse offered to provide detailed follow-up data on the East New York pilot program and explained that the Multiple Dwelling Law is the primary barrier preventing more homes from participating.
Ms. Milstein advocate informational
NYSAFAH
Milstein described NYSAFAH's program fostering and mentoring MWBE developers and an annual award for innovative MWBE developers.
Ms. Burns-Maine advocate informational
CPC
Burns-Maine testified that CPC's access initiative has committed $40 million in capital to new BIPOC developers and has run four or five cohorts of a training and incubator program.
Assemblyman Braunstein elected_official opposed
New York State Assembly
Braunstein expressed multiple concerns about the basement apartment proposal: it doesn't reform the MDL but only says 'notwithstanding'; conversion costs of $300,000-$500,000 are prohibitive; it only applies to illegal apartments while prohibiting legal conversions; and it's unclear how people prove illegal rental status.
Ms. Morse advocate informational
BASE program
Morse responded to Braunstein's concerns by explaining that New York City's Housing Maintenance Code and Building Code provide primary safety regulation for single- and two-family homes, which are not subject to the MDL. She argued that MDL compliance drives up costs and that the proposed program would be less expensive than new construction.
Assemblywoman Chandler-Waterman elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Chandler-Waterman asked about the impact of a nearly $5 million cut to NPC funding and whether services would be lost. She also asked about regulatory burden on homeowners if basement apartments are legalized.
Mark Streb advocate opposed
Neighborhood Preservation Coalition
Streb testified that each NPC receives roughly $129,723 annually. A proposed cut of $30,000 per company would eliminate 20-30 hours of staff work per week, representing a 33-34 percent funding reduction. He emphasized this is the wrong direction during a housing crisis.
Ms. Morse advocate informational
BASE program
Morse clarified that only homeowners who voluntarily apply to legalize basement apartments would be subject to new regulations.
Assemblyman Burdick elected_official supportive
New York State Assembly
Burdick thanked testifiers for their work and mentioned he and Dana Levenberg are introducing a package of housing bills. He asked CPC what additional statewide housing measures should be considered.
Ms. Burns-Maine advocate supportive
CPC
Burns-Maine expressed support for the Pro-Housing Communities approach and mentioned federal housing resources including the affordable housing tax credit bill and LIHTC expansion.
Assemblywoman Lee elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Lee asked about implementation of the $391 million secured last year for public housing and Section 8 housing to fund the Emergency Rental Assistance Program.
Mr. Simmons agency_official supportive
Executive Director, Syracuse Housing Authority
Simmons testified that ERAP funding has been tremendous, helping families who previously couldn't access public housing due to arrears. In Syracuse, the program helped address $2.3 million in arrears. He credited Assemblywoman Rosenthal with helping improve the dollar distribution process.
Ms. Milstein advocate supportive
NYSAFAH
Milstein testified that NYSAFAH advocated for ERAP funds and acted as a concierge service with OTDA to help subsidized tenants receive funds quickly and efficiently. She noted that now the money is spent, buildings need support to stay afloat.
Assemblywoman Kelles elected_official neutral
New York State Assembly
Kelles asked Streb to describe NPC services comprehensively and asked about the impact of the $10 million cut across NPCs and RPCs. She also asked Simmons about the $150 million for public authorities.
Mark Streb advocate informational
Neighborhood Preservation Coalition
Streb described NPC services as comprehensive, addressing issues from lack of heat to eviction threats to property damage. He noted that NPCs and RPCs form a network of about 200 organizations providing this work.
Mr. Simmons agency_official informational
Executive Director, Syracuse Housing Authority
Simmons described the $150 million for public authorities as supporting transformational programs like Syracuse's project to repurpose 675 units of public housing and add 1,400 mixed-income and market-rate units over 10 years to deconcentrate poverty.
Jay Inwald advocate opposed
Legal Services NYC, Director of Litigation for Economic Justice
Inwald testified that the annual threat of defunding the Homeowner Protection Program is a recurring problem. He noted that funding uncertainty prevents case acceptance, causes staff attrition, and has real consequences for homeowners. He criticized the Governor's characterization of HOPP as merely a 'legislative add' and highlighted the program's importance for racial justice, noting mortgage default rates for communities of color are twice those for white homeowners.
Erica Zimny advocate supportive
Legal Aid Society of Northeastern New York, Deputy Director; Legal Services Access Alliance
Zimny testified on behalf of the Legal Services Access Alliance, representing seven largest providers of free civil legal services outside NYC serving every county outside NYC with nearly 1,000 legal services workers. She expressed gratitude for the Governor's continued $35 million funding for the Legal Representation for Eviction Services Program and noted the Legislature's additional $15 million appropriation. She described the program's transformative impact and the alliance's efforts to expand services, develop partnerships with law schools, and create a statewide online intake portal.
Christie Peale advocate opposed
Center for New York City Neighborhoods, CEO and Executive Director
Peale called for full restoration of HOPP at $40 million. She testified that the HOPP network serves 15,000 families annually and has served 120,000 over a decade-plus. She noted 43 percent of clients statewide are BIPOC, rising to 75 percent in NYC. She claimed HOPP saves NY State $1.2 billion annually in property value preservation and taxes, with every $1 million invested yielding $5 million in returns. She requested additional $50 million for direct financial assistance and mentioned potential revenue sources including vacancy registration, title flipping legislation, and affordable title insurance.
Randy Dillard advocate supportive
Right to Counsel Coalition and Community Action for Safe Apartments/New Settlement
Dillard testified about his personal experience with eviction in 2013 and the importance of legal representation. He described the Right to Counsel Coalition's success: after winning RTC in 2017, 84 percent of tenants with legal representation stayed in their homes, evictions dropped 40 percent, and landlord lawsuits decreased 30 percent. He noted that over 20 cities, states and counties have passed RTC laws since 2017, and Westchester County passed RTC last year. He stated 175,000 tenants statewide are currently facing eviction and called for $260 million in funding to implement statewide right to counsel under S2721.

Senator Engagement (45)

Senator Engagement Stance Focus Areas Summary
Sen. Borrello skeptical Rent assistance verification and fraud Workforce housing inflation adjustment Income limit adjustments for housing programs Sen. Borrello raised pointed concerns about the state's $3 billion rent assistance program, questioning whether adequate hardship verification occurred and noting property owners reported tenants who could pay simply stopped paying. He also challenged the effectiveness of workforce housing programs that lose their designation due to inflation over project development timelines.
Sen. Brad Hoylman-Sigal neutral Sen. Hoylman-Sigal was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Brian Kavanagh skeptical Mitchell-Lama funding and capital allocations Pro-Housing Communities program mechanics and legal authority RUSH program for state property repurposing $250 million capital allocation structure and agency management Affordability requirements for state site conversions SUNY and MTA site potential DOT property subparts and conveyance structure Sen. Kavanagh engaged extensively with detailed, probing questions about program mechanics, legal authority, and funding allocation. He signaled skepticism about the vagueness of the $250 million state property repurposing program and questioned why ESD rather than HCR would manage the funds. He requested additional information and clarity on multiple fronts.
Sen. Brisport neutral Rent overcharge complaint processing timelines Lookback period changes from 4 to 6 years Tracking of complaints against same LLCs State-owned property capital funds and site selection 1024 Fulton Street in Clinton Hill, Brooklyn Sen. Brisport asked about the backlog of rent overcharge complaints and whether HCR tracks complaints against the same landlords. He inquired about the $500 million in capital funds for state-owned properties and specifically raised 1024 Fulton Street in Clinton Hill as a potential site for affordable housing.
Sen. Brisport supportive Brokers' fees impact on tenants Good-cause eviction enforcement ETPA implementation problems in Kingston and Newburgh Sen. Brisport asked detailed questions about brokers' fees and good-cause eviction, expressing concern about tenant protections. He specifically asked McKee about problems in Kingston after ETPA adoption, signaling interest in enforcement and implementation issues.
Sen. Cleare opposed Affordable housing supply inadequacy Racial equity in housing State-developed housing vs. developer-led affordable housing Senior housing allocation Sen. Cleare strongly opposed the Commissioner's emphasis on supply-side solutions, arguing that building more housing without ensuring affordability only displaces communities, particularly Black New Yorkers. She advocated for the state to directly develop housing using the Mitchell-Lama model rather than relying on private developers, and questioned the allocation of units for seniors.
Sen. Cleare supportive Gentrification and community preservation Exodus of Black residents from New York Fraud against seniors Deed theft and foreclosure prevention Landlord/tenant court burden on tenants Sen. Cleare expressed deep concern about gentrification in his district (Harlem, East Harlem, El Barrio) and the exodus of Black residents from New York State. He asked about legislative solutions to preserve diverse communities and protect seniors from fraud, indicating he will follow up with testifiers offline for recommendations.
Sen. Comrie skeptical Rent-stabilized unit vacancies Loan programs for building owners MWBE developer participation Creedmoor project scope concerns Sen. Comrie pressed the Commissioner on specific numbers and outcomes, asking how many loans have actually been granted to rent-stabilized building owners (receiving an admission of minimal uptake), requesting MWBE developer participation data, and expressing concern about the Creedmoor project exceeding community expectations.
Sen. Comrie unclear Landlord incentives for capital improvements Sen. Comrie is mentioned by Sen. Martins as having raised the issue of landlord incentives, but no direct testimony from this senator appears in the transcript.
Sen. Comrie skeptical ADU conversion barriers and costs East New York pilot program results Rent-stabilized unit rehabilitation funding caps Minority developer engagement Sen. Comrie asked pointed questions about the feasibility of basement conversions, the limited success of the East New York pilot, and whether current funding caps are realistic. He pressed for specific data on completed projects and minority developer outcomes.
Sen. Cordell Cleare neutral Sen. Cleare was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. George M. Borrello neutral Sen. Borrello was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Helming skeptical Emergency Homeowner Assistance program eligibility for flood victims Rent-stabilized housing maintenance and capital improvements Land bank funding reductions SUNY property repurposing and local zoning compliance Pro-Housing certification and rural infrastructure needs Sen. Helming expressed concern about the slow response to flooding in her district and questioned whether residents qualified for assistance. She raised concerns about declining capital improvements in rent-stabilized housing, the burden of regulations and high property taxes on landlords, and the need for more infrastructure investment in rural communities before housing development can occur.
Sen. Hoylman-Sigal neutral Vacant apartment tracking in rent-stabilized housing NYCHA vacancy data and oversight City of Yes proposal coordination Pro-Housing Community enforcement mechanisms Basement apartment legalization Sen. Hoylman-Sigal asked detailed questions about vacancy tracking, NYCHA oversight gaps, and enforcement mechanisms for the Pro-Housing program. She probed whether the state could claw back grants if localities failed to meet commitments and sought clarification on the 'carrot' versus 'stick' approach to incentivizing housing development.
Sen. Jabari Brisport neutral Sen. Brisport was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Jack M. Martins neutral Sen. Martins joined the hearing but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Jackson supportive Amalgamated Housing Cooperative survival Mitchell-Lama funding Good-cause eviction Sen. Jackson expressed concern about the financial viability of Amalgamated Housing Cooperative in the Bronx and sought to identify available resources. He also asked the Commissioner's position on good-cause eviction legislation, though the Commissioner deflected by emphasizing housing supply as the priority.
Sen. Jackson supportive Definition of good-cause eviction Right to counsel for tenants Legal representation in court Sen. Jackson asked pointed questions about the definition of good-cause eviction and expressed strong support for right to counsel, stating 'Right to counsel should be for everyone going into the courts.' He praised McKee's advocacy work and sought clarification on legal services availability.
Sen. Julia Salazar neutral Sen. Salazar was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Kavanagh neutral Homeowner Stabilization Fund community list Pro-Housing Community program and NYC eligibility 40,000 vacancy figure and housing emergency standards Vacant apartment warehousing Sen. Kavanagh engaged substantively on technical details, seeking clarification on the Homeowner Stabilization Fund's 10 communities, NYC's Pro-Housing status, and the meaning of the 40,000 vacancy figure. Established that the 4 percent vacancy rate aligns with the historic 5 percent threshold for housing emergency, suggesting current vacancy levels are not abnormal.
Sen. Kavanagh neutral Affordable housing relief fund structure COVID-related arrears and building distress HCR program adequacy Forgivable loan mechanisms Sen. Kavanagh asked detailed, substantive questions about the affordable housing relief fund proposal, seeking to understand how it would work and why existing HCR programs are inadequate. He thanked all panelists for their work.
Sen. Kavanagh skeptical Clarifying status of proposed housing package Budget process concerns HOPP funding baseline Program effectiveness Sen. Kavanagh challenged McKee's characterization of a 'cooked up' housing package, stating he was not aware of such a bill and expressing skepticism about the claims. He expressed concern about the budget process where programs are zeroed out in January and then restored, noting this creates uncertainty. He expressed support for full funding of programs like HOPP.
Sen. Kavanagh neutral General hearing management Thanking panelists Directing testimony flow Sen. Kavanagh served as co-chair and managed the hearing flow, thanking panelists and directing questions to other senators. Made a light joke about Chairwoman Weinstein leaving the room.
Sen. Kavanagh supportive Clarification on $250 million affordable housing stabilization fund Public housing capital funding and management challenges Coordination between housing advocacy organizations Sen. Kavanagh asked clarifying questions about overlapping funding requests from different housing organizations, seeking to ensure a unified ask. He expressed strong support for public housing capital funding and engaged substantively with Barbara Williams about management accountability while supporting the $4.5 billion request.
Sen. Kavanagh supportive Housing budget Sen. Kavanagh served as cochair for the housing hearing and expressed appreciation for testimony received, noting his long service history with Chairwoman Weinstein in the Assembly.
Sen. Krueger neutral Budget hearings oversight Chairwoman Weinstein thanked Sen. Krueger as cochair for her work across all budget hearings for the 2024-2025 Executive Budget. No direct testimony or questions from Sen. Krueger appear in this excerpt.
Sen. Leroy Comrie neutral Sen. Comrie was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Martins neutral State-owned property inventory for housing Statutory approval requirements Long Island housing sites Sen. Martins sought clarification on the inventory of state, MTA, and SUNY-owned properties being evaluated for housing development and requested access to a comprehensive list of potential sites.
Sen. Martins skeptical Site selection transparency for housing projects Municipal response times and project delays Landlord incentives for capital improvements Low-interest loan uptake Sen. Martins raised concerns about lack of transparency in site selection and slow municipal response times that delay projects. Questioned why low-interest loans are not attracting landlord participation in capital improvements, suggesting the administration needs to better understand market dynamics.
Sen. Martins skeptical Exclusionary zoning definition Local community autonomy Housing diversity Market-rate vs. affordable housing balance Incentive-based vs. mandate-based approaches Sen. Martins, representing Nassau County villages, pushed back on the term 'exclusionary zoning,' arguing that villages should have autonomy to make their own decisions. He noted that some socioeconomically challenged communities want market-rate housing in their downtowns rather than more affordable units. He advocated for an 'all-tools approach' using incentives rather than mandates.
Sen. May supportive Mixed-income housing development Upstate housing needs SEQR process reform Sen. May advocated for mixed-income housing development to avoid concentrated poverty and requested state support for reducing regulatory barriers and development costs. She asked about SEQR process reform efforts, which the Commissioner indicated were underway through DEC and the City of New York.
Sen. May supportive Right to counsel implementation Attorney pipeline and recruitment Legal services funding Administrative infrastructure Sen. May expressed support for right to counsel and asked practical questions about scaling up legal services statewide, including attorney recruitment and funding. She suggested visiting Montgomery County, Maryland as an alternative to Vienna for studying public housing models.
Sen. May supportive Zoning restrictions in Syracuse Community opposition to affordable housing Design and aesthetics of affordable housing Composition of zoning boards Sen. May expressed frustration with local zoning restrictions outside Syracuse city limits and community opposition to affordable housing. He asked about efforts to showcase attractive affordable housing design and about changing the composition of zoning boards to include younger people with pro-housing visions.
Sen. May supportive Source-of-income discrimination funding Faith-based affordable housing bill implementation and barriers Rural homelessness Mobile home replacement programs Sen. May asked detailed questions about fair housing testing program funding, the faith-based housing bill's implementation challenges, and rural homelessness. She indicated she is chair of the Legislative Commission on Rural Resources and stated she is fighting to restore cut programs in the budget. She engaged substantively on mobile home policy and rural housing preservation.
Sen. Myrie supportive Tenant protections and eviction trends NYCHA capital funding SUNY Downstate Medical Center housing plans Sen. Myrie expressed support for aggressive housing supply building while emphasizing the importance of tenant protections. He cited Comptroller DiNapoli's report showing evictions up 180 percent post-moratorium but still 27 percent below pre-pandemic levels due to Housing Stability and Tenant Protection Act. He raised concerns about lack of capital funding for NYCHA and inquired about housing plans for SUNY Downstate.
Sen. Myrie supportive Rent burden on workers Feasibility of simultaneous policy approaches Labor perspective on housing Sen. Myrie asked pointed questions about how much of 32BJ members' wages go to rent and whether the Legislature can simultaneously address supply, zoning, and tenant protections. He appeared supportive of comprehensive approaches and concerned about labor's housing struggles.
Sen. O'Mara neutral Sen. O'Mara is identified as a participant in the hearing but no direct engagement appears in this transcript excerpt.
Sen. Pamela Helming neutral Sen. Helming was present as Housing Ranker but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Rachel May neutral Sen. May was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Robert Jackson neutral Sen. Jackson joined the hearing but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Salazar neutral Rent overcharge complaint backlog causes HCR hiring and capacity issues Tenant recourse when forced to move before overcharge determination Sen. Salazar focused on the backlog of rent overcharge complaints, asking whether it was due to insufficient agency capacity. She learned that HCR is hiring approximately 30 additional people and has faced challenges with civil service hiring processes. She also asked about protections for tenants forced to move before their overcharge claims are resolved.
Sen. Salazar supportive Portfolio size loopholes in good-cause eviction End Toxic House Flipping Act revenue potential Affordable housing preservation Sen. Salazar asked McKee to elaborate on loopholes in proposed good-cause eviction language and asked Peale about how the End Toxic House Flipping Act could address housing market problems. He appears to support strong tenant protections and affordable housing preservation.
Sen. Thomas O'Mara neutral Sen. O'Mara was present as Finance Ranker but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.
Sen. Weinstein neutral Hearing management and procedural matters As chair, Sen. Weinstein managed the hearing, introduced testifiers, and facilitated transitions between panels. She did not ask substantive policy questions but ensured orderly testimony and noted opportunities for written submissions.
Sen. Zellnor Myrie neutral Sen. Myrie was present but did not ask questions during the testimony period covered in this transcript.