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2025-02-25 Joint Legislative Hearing on the 2025-2026 Executive Budget on Higher Education Chair: Sen. Liz Krueger (Senate Finance) and Assemblyman J. Gary Pretlow (Assembly Ways and Means) View full transcript → Archive

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New York's higher education system faces a critical juncture as state lawmakers heard testimony on Governor Hochul's proposed 2025-2026 budget during a joint legislative hearing on February 25. The hearing revealed significant gaps between what the administration is proposing and what educators, students, and advocates say is needed to maintain quality and access. Chancel King of SUNY and Chancellor Félix Matos Rodríguez of CUNY both praised the Governor's budget proposals but highlighted substantial unmet needs. King reported SUNY's enrollment increased 3.4% last fall—the first back-to-back systemwide increases in 15 years—with 52% of in-state undergraduates attending tuition-free. However, he warned that proposed federal research funding cuts could cost SUNY $79-80 million, threatening medical research and other critical programs. Matos Rodríguez reported CUNY's 5% enrollment growth over two years but emphasized that an additional $34 million is needed to fully cover faculty wage increases from a recently ratified collective bargaining agreement. The Chancellor praised the Governor's Opportunity Promise Scholarship providing free community college tuition for adults 25-55 in high-demand fields, but community college leaders warned the program cannot succeed without an additional $100 million in operational funding. George Cushman, chair of the New York Community College Trustees, detailed specific needs: $30 million for faculty and staff salaries (nursing faculty lag hospital wages by 32%), $30 million for high-cost programs (healthcare requires 1:8 faculty-to-student ratios versus 1:30 for liberal arts), $30 million for program expansion, and $10 million for student support services. Faculty and staff unions expressed concerns about underfunding. Dr. Frederick Kowal of United University Professions called for $212.1 million in additional operating aid, with $102 million directly allocated to 17 SUNY campuses with structural deficits. He also advocated for an additional $250 million in capital funding for SUNY Downstate Medical Center beyond the Executive Budget's $750 million. Student testimony highlighted basic needs crises. Daniel Reden, CUNY University Student Trustee, noted that transportation costs exceed $9,000 annually and that there are only nine counselors for 11,000 students at York College. Gabrielle Lerner, representing non-traditional students, reported that approximately 92,805 student parents lack access to on-campus childcare despite one-in-five college students being parents. Advocates warned of threats to opportunity programs. Blair Horner of NYPIRG highlighted that Bundy Aid—which peaked at $114 million in 1989—now receives only $22 million (adjusted for inflation should be $260 million), contributing to financial distress at independent colleges. Renaldo Alba warned that cuts to STEP and CSTEP programs in the new five-year contract cycle (2025-2030) will result in permanent elimination of projects. Chair Liz Krueger of the Senate Finance Committee delivered a sobering message, warning that federal budget cuts targeting hundreds of billions in spending will likely reduce state resources for higher education, healthcare, housing, and environmental programs. She urged all stakeholders to prepare for more difficult budget conversations ahead. The hearing underscored a fundamental tension: while the Governor's budget includes significant investments—including $114 million for SUNY state-operated campuses, $96 million for CUNY senior colleges, and $47 million for the Opportunity Promise Scholarship—educators and students argue these investments fall short of what's needed to maintain quality, access, and affordability in the face of rising costs, federal threats, and basic student needs like food security and mental health services.

Topic Summary

This joint hearing examined Governor Hochul's proposed 2025-2026 budget for higher education, focusing on funding for SUNY and CUNY systems, the Governor's Opportunity Promise Scholarship for free community college, student affordability, and various support programs. Key issues included operating aid increases, capital investments, collective bargaining agreements, and federal threats to research funding and diversity initiatives.

Testimony (22)

Dr. John B. King, Jr. agency_official supportive
Chancellor, State University of New York
Chancellor King highlighted SUNY's 3.4% enrollment increase, noting 52% of in-state undergraduates attend tuition-free. He praised the Governor's budget proposals including $114 million for state-operated campuses, $550 million for critical maintenance, and $200 million for the innovation fund. He expressed concerns about potential federal research cuts and emphasized SUNY's commitment to diversity and inclusion.
Félix V. Matos Rodríguez agency_official supportive
Chancellor, City University of New York
Chancellor Matos Rodríguez reported CUNY's 5% enrollment growth over two years (nearly 12,000 new students), highlighting career-connected programs and research achievements ($672 million in external funding). He requested an additional $34 million to fully cover faculty wage increases from the December collective bargaining agreement and praised the Governor's Opportunity Promise Scholarship.
Dr. Guillermo Linares agency_official supportive
President, New York State Higher Education Services Corporation (HESC)
Dr. Linares reported HESC administers over 30 grant and scholarship programs supporting nearly 300,000 students annually. He highlighted TAP expansion benefits (93,000 more students eligible, 48,000 newly eligible) and noted New York ranked fourth nationally for FAFSA completion among Class of 2025 high school students. He emphasized the importance of Universal FAFSA completion and discussed modernizing the financial aid application system.
Dr. Betty Rosa agency_official neutral
Commissioner, New York State Department of Education
Commissioner Rosa discussed SED's role in higher education oversight, including the Office of Professions and Opportunity Programs. She opposed the Governor's proposal to transfer health professions licensing to the Department of Health, advocated for increased funding for Opportunity Programs (STEP, CSTEP, HEOP, Liberty Partnerships), and highlighted the need for additional support for students with disabilities and the science of reading initiatives.
Dr. James Davis advocate supportive
President, Professional Staff Congress/CUNY
Dr. Davis testified on behalf of CUNY faculty and staff union, expressing gratitude for legislative support and highlighting the ratification of a new collective bargaining agreement. He advocated for the additional $34 million needed to fully cover contract costs and supported the Governor's Opportunity Promise Scholarship while calling for removal of age restrictions and expansion to all CUNY/SUNY colleges.
Andrew Sako advocate opposed
President, Faculty Federation of Erie Community College
Sako testified on behalf of community college faculty, expressing disappointment that community colleges are receiving the same base-aid funding as last year despite needing more support. He noted the state's contribution to community colleges has decreased from 31% to 25% over 10 years and requested $429 million in base aid plus an additional $95 million to reach 33% of statutory requirement.
George Cushman advocate opposed
Chair, New York Community College Trustees
Cushman testified representing 30 SUNY community colleges serving 145,000 New Yorkers annually. He endorsed the Governor's Opportunity Promise but warned that without an additional $100 million in operational funding, colleges cannot realize the vision. He detailed specific needs: $30 million for faculty/staff, $30 million for high-cost programs, $30 million for program expansion, and $10 million for student support.
Dr. Frederick E. Kowal advocate opposed
President, United University Professions
Dr. Kowal testified on behalf of SUNY faculty and staff, requesting $212.1 million in total operating aid increase with $102 million directly allocated to 17 campuses with structural deficits. He advocated for permanent state support for SUNY hospitals' fringe benefits and debt service, and called for an additional $250 million in capital funding for SUNY Downstate beyond the Executive Budget's $750 million.
Bradley Hershenson advocate supportive
Business Agent, Graduate Student Employees Union, CWA Local 1104
Hershenson testified on behalf of nearly 5,000 graduate student workers at SUNY who teach approximately 40% of classes. He called for full funding of collective bargaining agreements, expansion of programs and services, and elimination of fees for graduate student workers through budget language.
Gio Harvey advocate supportive
President, SUNY Student Assembly
Harvey testified representing over 1.3 million SUNY students, expressing gratitude for legislative investments and calling for support of the Governor's operating aid increase. He proposed modifications to the Excelsior Scholarship (reduce credit requirement from 30 to 24, eliminate continuous enrollment requirement, expand to cover fees, increase income threshold to $180,000) and requested $20 million for EOP expansion, $5 million for DEI efforts, and $10 million for mental health services.
Gabrielle Lerner advocate supportive
President, Empire State University Student Government Association
Lerner testified as a non-traditional student (graduate student, parent, online learner) highlighting issues facing one-third of SUNY students who are non-traditional. She advocated for childcare support, digital accessibility, housing assistance, and expansion of TAP to cover off-campus housing, noting that 92,805 student parents lack access to on-campus childcare.
Daniel Reden advocate supportive
CUNY University Student Trustee and Chairperson, University Student Senate
Reden testified representing over 390,000 CUNY students, highlighting transportation as a major barrier to success. He advocated for the MetroCard pilot program and state-funded partnership with MTA, noting that transportation costs exceed $9,000 annually. He also addressed campus deterioration, housing insecurity, food insecurity, and outdated technology.
David J. Adams industry supportive
Senior Vice President, Government Relations, Kaplan North America
Adams testified on behalf of Kaplan Education, a New York company founded 90 years ago, advocating for a universal workforce development program providing access to licensure and certification exam preparation. He argued that economically disadvantaged students are shortchanged without access to high-quality test preparation programs and that some states have already begun offering universal access.
Elisabeth Espinosa advocate supportive
Director, Outreach Programs, Catholic Charities Tri-County Services (on behalf of Anti-Hunger Advocacy Day Coalition)
Espinosa testified on behalf of the Anti-Hunger Advocacy Day Coalition, sharing her personal story of homelessness and food insecurity as a college student 20 years ago. She advocated for full funding of Nourish New York and HPNAP programs at $75 million, noting that current food pantries provide only three days' worth of food.
Lola W. Brabham advocate opposed
President, Commission on Independent Colleges and Universities (CICU)
Brabham testified on behalf of independent-sector institutions educating over 40% of New York's college students. She opposed cuts to Opportunity Programs and the elimination of Bundy Aid for campuses with endowments over $750 million. She advocated for expanding the Opportunity Promise Scholarship to independent-sector institutions and restoring Bundy Aid.
Donna Stelling-Gurnett advocate opposed
President, Association of Private Colleges (APC)
Stelling-Gurnett testified on behalf of 12 privately owned institutions educating over 22,000 students. She thanked the Legislature for TAP expansion and supported further improvements including extending TAP years and reinstating Graduate TAP. She opposed the $2 million cut to enhanced supports for students with disabilities and advocated for expanding the Opportunity Promise Scholarship to all students regardless of institution type.
Ruth Genn advocate supportive
Executive Director, Literacy Academy Collective
Genn testified on behalf of Literacy Academy Collective, advocating for funding to support the New York State Path Forward, a statewide policy effort to integrate the science of reading into higher education preparation programs. She cited Mississippi's success in improving reading scores and noted that New York ranks fifth from the bottom in integrating science of reading into educator preparation programs.
Chris Lacosse advocate supportive
Director, New York State University Police Officers Benevolent Association, PBA of New York State
Lacosse testified on behalf of 400 police officers in the SUNY system, advocating for centralization of the decentralized law enforcement agency. He noted that New York is the only state with a decentralized law enforcement agency and that the 29 campuses have 29 different policy manuals. He cited high officer turnover (50 officers in 7 years at SUNY Albany) and called for standardized policies, career ladder, and buying power.
Elizabeth Altman advocate supportive
President, Friends of the New York State Liberty Partnerships
Altman testified on behalf of Liberty Partnership Programs (LPP), New York's only state-funded dropout prevention program with 37 years of proven success. She reported serving over 18,000 students with 96% retention rate and 86% graduation rate. She requested restoration of the Governor's proposed cut and a 20% increase to expand reach and services.
Renaldo D. Alba advocate opposed
President, Association for Program Administrators of STEP and CSTEP (APACS)
Alba testified on behalf of STEP and CSTEP programs serving 25,500 students across 118 projects in public and private institutions. He warned that cuts in the 2026 fiscal year (beginning of new five-year contract 2025-2030) will result in elimination of projects for the next five years. He requested restoration of 4.37% cut ($1.6 million) and an additional 20% increase.
Kevin Marken advocate supportive
Utica Director, On Point for College
Marken testified on behalf of On Point for College, representing 3,000 students and 4,600 graduates. He highlighted the organization's comprehensive college access and success services for lower-income, first-generation, and other vulnerable students. He reported persistence rates 10-25% higher than average and noted On Point graduates provide over $11 billion spent in their communities over lifetime.
Blair Horner advocate opposed
Executive Director, New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG)
Horner testified on behalf of NYPIRG, calling for restoration of cuts to Opportunity Programs, raising maximum TAP award to match SUNY tuition, and restoring TAP eligibility for graduate students. He highlighted the impact of decades-long cuts to Bundy Aid, noting the program peaked at nearly $114 million in 1989 but now receives only $22 million (adjusted for inflation should be $260 million).

Senator Engagement (11)

Senator Engagement Stance Focus Areas Summary
Sen. Andrew Gounardes skeptical Opportunity Promise eligibility gaps Downstate Medical timeline CUNY transfer initiative Sen. Gounardes expressed skepticism about the April 1st Downstate timeline and questioned whether all associate degree programs are eligible for the Opportunity Promise.
Sen. Dean Murray neutral Opportunity Promise tracking Endowment spending Sen. Murray asked about tracking whether Opportunity Promise graduates stay in-state and questioned endowment spending at Stony Brook University.
Sen. Joe Griffo skeptical Upstate Medical Center parity Judge Lippman report implementation Campus consolidation/closure concerns Office of Professions proposal Sen. Griffo raised concerns about parity between Downstate and Upstate Medical investments, questioned implementation of the Lippman report on campus safety, and asked about potential campus consolidations or closures.
Sen. John C. Liu skeptical No-bid contracts and academic freedom Censorship concerns with publishers Alignment between labor unions and administration EOP program funding Sen. Liu raised pointed questions about SUNY's no-bid contract with a major publisher, expressing concerns about monopolistic tendencies and censorship by foreign governments. He also questioned whether SUNY leadership is sufficiently enthusiastic about EOP programs.
Sen. Julia Salazar supportive Higher education in prisons STEP/CSTEP programs Sen. Salazar asked about expanding higher education in prisons and expressed concern about proposed cuts to STEP and CSTEP programs.
Sen. Liz Krueger skeptical Federal funding threats Student loan default rates Graduate student debt levels Realistic budget constraints Impact of federal policy changes Chair Krueger expressed concern about federal threats to higher education funding and questioned whether the state can maintain current support levels given federal budget cuts. She emphasized the need for realistic planning and noted that elections have consequences, warning that the coming years will bring difficult budget conversations.
Sen. Patricia Fahy supportive Community college funding Capital investments for University Centers Federal funding uncertainty Sen. Fahy expressed support for community college funding and capital investments in University Centers, particularly UAlbany.
Sen. Peter Oberacker supportive SUNY technical colleges capital needs Antisemitism task force support SUNY Delhi support Sen. Oberacker expressed support for SUNY technical colleges and SUNY Delhi specifically, and thanked the Chancellor for addressing antisemitism concerns.
Sen. Rachel May supportive Federal research funding threats SUNY system benefits Shared services Upward mobility through higher education Sen. May expressed concern about federal research funding cuts and asked about SUNY's engagement with Republican lawmakers to protect research funding.
Sen. Robert Jackson supportive Downstate Medical Center commitment CUNY contract funding Community needs Sen. Jackson expressed concern about fulfilling commitments to Downstate Medical Center and questioned whether CUNY can pull together resources to fully fund the PSC contract.
Sen. Toby Stavisky supportive TAP expansion impact Downstate Medical Center timeline Opportunity Programs funding Faculty-to-student ratios CUNY structural deficit Chair Stavisky asked detailed questions about program impacts and timelines, expressing support for TAP expansion and opportunity programs while seeking specific data on outcomes and implementation challenges.